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NBA PLAYOFFS 1ST ROUND GAMETHREAD: Cleveland Cavaliers @ Miami HEAT GAME 4

This is our GAMETHREAD: Chat live about Game 4 here!

Injury Report:

Miami Heat:  

  • Kevin Love (personal reasons) — OUT
  • Terry Rozier (left ankle sprain) — OUT

Cleveland Cavaliers:

  • Darius Garland (left toe sprain) — OUT

Starting 5:

Miami Heat:

  • Tyler Herro, G
  • Alec Burks, G
  • Andrew Wiggins, F
  • Bam Adebayo, F
  • Kel’el Ware, C

Cleveland Cavaliers:

  • Sam Merrill, G
  • Donovan Mitchell , G
  • Max Strus, F
  • Evan Mobley, F
  • Jarrett Allen, C

Broadcast Info:

  • Tipoff: 7:30 PM EST
  • TV: TNT/Max, FanDuel Sports Network Sun (Eric Reid & John Crotty) 
  • Radio: SiriusXM, WQAM 560 / S: WQBA 1140, 100.7 WMMS & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
  • Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)

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heat for life

jimmy quit cause team around him 30 called it.players know who can play who cant better than anybody.tys not really a positive and bam is good but so are about 50 othe rplayers in nba.jimmy is a very intelligent man he got what he wanted in the end.

Bout30man

Yes, now it can be said. We never had enough, never. And as Jimmy lost a step, he realized we were not going to win anything here. But, not to exonerate JB as the biggest mistake Pat made, was because he listened to Jimmy. I know it’s just speculation, but I always thought that if we could go back in time and get an A- player instead of Lowry, we would be flying another banner. Jimmy was that good back then.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Bout30man
heat for life

when u have jimmy u can retool when u have ty and bam gotta blow it up neither are worthy of carrying a team they are both #3 type players not #2s

Bout30man

Ty has been exposed. He’s a sixth man on a good team, a Pat Prichard or Ty Jerome, not even an Austin Reaves. And don’t fall for Jovic’s good showing or JJJ’s last game of the regular season either, or HH.’s occasional flashes. Or Slo Mo either. Our core is Bam, Ware (if he improves, which is likely), Mitchell, and Wiggins as a rotation player. Thats it. When we play good teams you learn the truth.

heat for life

the best thing about the heat the last 40 years for me is eric reid if he ever retires that will be one sad day for me.he is the miami heat

Hothothoopsfan4life

So dumman how this for the experience you wanted them to gain and they quit. Now which is worse quitting in the reg season or quitting in the playoffs where more eyes are on you. Time for you to admit you were wrong like a man and don’t try to manipulate your way out of this, no smart ass comments just admit it would have been better for them to quit in the reg season because that’s what happened tonight

Last edited 2 hours ago by Hothothoopsfan4life
heat for life

yeah sunman not looking to good.hes lost little cred with me.hes gone from lebron status to jimmy butler status .all star poster at best not a ss

heat for life

fireworks on hhh more exciting than the team go hothoops go sunman or dumman

ManilaHeat

I feel sorry for those Heat fan live game youtubers or whatever you call it…
They have to go through this painful and embarrassing ordeal. Soooo sad

Zac

I’m hoping to set the playoff losses record, need to lose by 59 or more.

Maybe that will wake Micky up to how Pat has bungled this franchise for the last few years (maybe a decade if you are cynical like me.

About the only hope I have for this teams short term future, would be Micky retiring Pat and Spo.

ManilaHeat

See yah all next season 😀😂😜😭😭

Bout30man

Let’s enjoy our last half hour or so of the season. It’s been a hell of a year, one of a few good moments and many bad ones. It will be over soon.

InsuranceMan

I agree30. That’s a pleasant sentiment. This trash season will soon close and it will all be in the past. I still enjoy reading and posting with you all and listening to Reid & Crotty

Bout30man

Yes, you guys all made my season better.

InsuranceMan

Get Tyler off the freaking floor I don’t want to see him play another minute WTF

heatforlife

jovics got a nice shot he just cant take it to the hoop.hes gotta be a 3 pt shooter going forward

Bout30man

Embarrassing. It would not surprise me if this wasn’t the end of an era. In fact, it probably should be. Our team is at best two years away, probably more. I do think it’s time to get a new GM.

Zac

Spo playing Wiggins like when he insisted on playing Rozier. Anyone with eyes sees he’s a low effort player who doesn’t fit in. But let’s keep giving him minutes.

Jaquez may stink, but he’s 24, on a rookie deal. Wiggins is 30, not much upside there. Wiggins from the finals like 5 years ago ain’t coming back. There’s a reason he was -75 in his minutes with GSW. There’s a reason they gave him away. He’s garbage at this point.

heatforlife

he had some really good games for us then he got injured so im gonna say hes still hurt.think hes a decent player not this series.their duncan d has locked him up

Bout30man

I think the Heat have let go of the rope.

heatforlife

heat culture was d wade not riley spolstra

heatforlife

this is gonna scare away any good player from coming here.at least we have the panthers

Zac

It might scare em off, but there was no real threat of them coming here anyway. Not getting stars for league minimum .

heatforlife

good weather hot chics night life

heatforlife

keeep on drafting jaimes pelless jovics pat you need to be fired one second after this game i am firing u if mickey wont

InsuranceMan

Jovic legacy game

Reality Czech

Anyway, I am not going to torture myself any further with this game. Best wishes for a good offseason. Can’t get any worse than this one.

Zac

Kinda think you’re dreaming. Pat’s set this franchise back years over the last four or so seasons (Duncan contract, Lowry trade, Rozier trade, Wiggins trade). Would have been worlds better to just let Lowry walk (or you know sign someone under 100). Would have been worlds better to let Jimmy sit the year and walk for a new contract with his opt out. Or trade Jimmy for expiring contracts.

No draft capital. No cap room. No real desirable assets…long couple years

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ManilaHeat

Wow down 40. Hope they lose at least a “respectable” 20pts at the end

Zac

I want them to lose by a record at this point. End the season with an exclamation point that gets the owners attention to make some needed changes.

Zac

Why call timeouts Spo? You can’t coach your way outta this

Reality Czech

Don’t be negative, he’s calling for the rare 40 point play here.

Zac

Line up the rest of the way should be
Mitchell
Larsson
Jaquez
Jovic
Ware

Don’t play the bums like Wiggins and Robinson. Don’t play Miami’s wanna be stars and only trade chips in Herro and Bam. Don’t play SloMo.

Just stop. Let’s lose by 70. Who cares. At least it’ll be interesting watching the summer league squad over watching guys who are washed and never gonna be get blow out by 40

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ManilaHeat

We’re gonna be the laughing stock of the bb world. I’m gonna hide my Heat merch for a year lol

Zac

NBA sent me an email about buying playoff merch last week. I lol’d

InsuranceMan

Jovic going to go for 30

heatforlife

if they had garland theyd be up by 50

heatforlife

what is this pelle larsson love keshad johnson better player spobot

Hothothoopsfan4life

Unathletic over athletic simple as black vs white

heatforlife

thats a problem with this team to many whitesiders.they were winning with ty and the bros.only whitesider worth playing is ty

Reality Czech

BRING BACK DR JACK!

Ramsey? No, Kevorkian!!

Last edited 4 hours ago by Reality Czech
InsuranceMan

**** off honestly get Wiggins off my team I’m fed up

Zac

Can we get Jaquez for Wiggins? I mean Wiggins is flat awful. Jaquez is too, but maybe he can grow.

heatforlife

really can t be worse than wiggy

heatforlife

no good players coming here why?

Reality Czech

They heard rumors about you being here. 😆😆

Zac

Because Pat is allergic to draft picks.

Cleveland – Garland high first round pick
Cleveland – Mobley high first round pick
Boston – Tatum high first round pick
Boston – Brown high first round pick
OKC – Chet high first round pick
OKC – Jay Will high first round pick

My point is it’s a lot easier to fill in a piece to put you over the top than it is to acquire a super star to put you over the top.

Miami is missing a MVP, not another mid level piece. You aren’t likely to draft a MVP at 20. You can’t sign a mvp with no cap room. Maybe you can trade for one, but you’ll gut your roster, future picks, to have a Milwaukee bucks situation.

heatforlife

this is looking like mediocrity for a while

Reality Czech

Valid points

Hothothoopsfan4life

Aka should’ve lost that playin game vs the bulls but fans like dumman convinced everyone here besides me that Mia shouldn’t tank one f***ing game for that lottery pick b/w 9-11

Zac

100% they should of lost that game. But I’d go further and say there was a point they were closing in on Toronto, but Spo kept trotting out Bam and Herro. Shoulda had some rest days or minor injuries keep them out and chase the top 8 pick. They were in a losing streak. Couldn’t escape the play in at that point. But no, had to string together some wins over bad teams…

heatforlife

bam max player sees sht around him does nothing.donovan a real ss going for the kill asap.their best player a real ss bam good complimentary player with a no killer mentality

InsuranceMan

Logo 3 were so back

Sharkey

Only down 26. There’s still a chance 🤣

InsuranceMan

I believe bro

ManilaHeat

Greatest playoff comeback! Lezzgo Heat 😁😁😁

Reality Czech

I am having nightmare flashbacks of the Dolphins 62-7 loss.

Zac

Just hoping it’s not as embarrassing as the 51 point Grizzlies loss, though I’d bet they played OKC closer over 4 games than we have.

heatforlife

clevleand jaguars

ManilaHeat

At least they have a “good” record of 6 straight playoff appearances 😅🤪

Sharkey

We’re the Play In legends. You can’t find a better Play-in team in the NBA.

Zac

‘We like our roster’
‘Retool, not rebuild’
‘Run it back’

Just can’t wait for Pat’s presser

heatforlife

sunmans losing cred to

Hothothoopsfan4life

Never had any with me, this is the worst team in the playoffs no ss no talent and yet his clown a** crying about them losing 1 game vs the bulls

Bout30man

I will never forget this lesson. We would have been far better off losing in the play in. There was no benefit in this.

Reality Czech

None, zero, zilch, nada

Hothothoopsfan4life

According to dumman valuable experience for the young guys smh.

Zac

Too bad Spo and Pat have their heads in their…it should have been clear back in February that this squad didn’t belong.

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Sharkey

Maybe the benefit is that it has to be clear to everyone now that running it back won’t do it. We need major changes and I believe that after such blowout we will get major changes.

Zac

35-8. Pack it in Spo. Play the kids the rest of the way.

heatforlife

stan love rip brother of lead singer of beach boys ,

Zac

lol at the state of this franchise. Just embarrassing. But congrats on the playoffs Spo and Pat

heatforlife

bams the only guy worthy of a roster spot.herro is just to one wayish.wiggys playoff perf has really soured me to him.davs just too small and doesnt score enough,if u want to be mediocre u stick with these guys.get some playground kids with hops

ManilaHeat

Man I feel soooo sorry for our team 😢😭

Zac

Why, they wanted this. At one point they were headed towards the 8 spot in the lottery . Any one with eyes could see this team couldn’t compete. Yet Spo and Pat kept playing key pieces chasing the 10th seed. Players fought too.

Shoulda packed it in.

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Hothothoopsfan4life

Agreed wholeheartedly it’s pathetic

Sharkey

You can see they play with great confidence. They know they are better and they are dead set to finish it tonight.

heatforlife

30 8 wow .the heat quit u cant blame them the other team is just better down 3 0 its a natural thing to feel this way.its like the feeling boxers went into the ring with tyson

Bout30man

Yes, it’s hard to watch.

heatforlife

davs a nice story but hes a backup

heatforlife

25 8 game sova brings the unicorn in games fn over f spobot f this team

Reality Czech

You wanted these extra games. I don’t know how you could possibly enjoy any of these games . A number of us saw this coming before the end of the regular season. We knew this was not really a team that could compete with the best teams. That very minor 6 game winning streak is a distant memory. I don’t hate the team. It is what it is. Have to see what we can do in the off-season. What is done is done.

heatforlife

they were blowing out teams looking good but wiggy has sukd burks slo mo havent played

Reality Czech

I believe most teams in that streak had losing records. It was a mirage.

heatforlife

bost gsw

heatforlife

wiggy for jimmy lol

heatforlife

herros worn out kid had great fn year props ty

Sharkey

Ty missed some good looks

heatforlife

dav is a backup not a starter

Bout30man

Yep. The Heat are getting exposed in many ways. At least we know the truth. Wiggins can’t create his own shot either, and Bam has trouble also. All our players have their limitations. You learn a lot playing a really good team. Bam is our best and he’s at best an A-..

Last edited 4 hours ago by Bout30man
ManilaHeat

Giving up already?

Bout30man

Why, we are only 22 down in the first?

heatforlife

dandre hunter would be our best player

Sharkey

Good start for Cleveland. I have to say that I like how they play. I will root for them if they face Boston 🙂

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