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NBA GAMETHREAD: Sacramento Kings (3-3) @ Miami Heat (3-2)

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Injury Report:

Miami Heat:

  • Jaime Jaquez Jr. (illness) — OUT
  • Kevin Love (Return to Competition Conditioning) — OUT
  • Josh Christopher (G-League) — OUT
  • Keshad Johnson (G-League) — OUT

Sacramento Kings:

  • Kevin Huerter (illness) — OUT
  • Devin Carter (shoulder) — OUT
  • Orlando Robinson (MCL) — OUT
  • Isaiah Carter (G-League) — OUT

Starting 5:

Miami Heat:

  • Terry Rozier, G
  • Tyler Herro, G
  • Jimmy Butler, F
  • Nikola Jovic, F
  • Bam Adebayo, C

Sacramento Kings:

  • De’Aaron Fox, G
  • DeMar DeRozan, G
  • Keon Ellis, G
  • Keegan Murray, F
  • Damontas Sabonis, C

Broadcast Info:

  • Tipoff: 8:15 PM EST
  • TV: NBA TV & FanDuel Sports Network Sun (Eric Reid & John Crotty)
  • Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
  • Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)

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Iknowtoomuch

The well-coached teams will make adjustments at halftime. For some reason (go ahead and think for a moment) the Heat take a quarter (3rd quarter) to react to these changes without making their own adjustments. Just saying…this trend has become a multi-seasonal habit.

SunManFromDogBone

If the team is going to be mediocre, why not do it with the young guys? Ware and Pelle need spots in the rotation. The sooner they get their feet wet, the faster they will learn to swim.

The Heat begin a six-game trip starting Wednesday in Phoenix against the 6-1 Suns. From there, they head to Denver, Minnesota, Detroit and Indiana (for two games). When the Heat return later this month, they will host the Philadelphia 76ers (with Paul George and maybe Joel Embiid), Dallas Mavericks and Milwaukee Bucks.

That’s eight of nine games against teams that made the playoffs last season. The Heat are currently 0-3 against last season’s playoff teams and haven’t won a regular-season game against a team with a winning record since April 2.

P.S. Kings win the third 37-17. Heat at home this season in third quarters:

Orlando, 39-18
Detroit, 26-14
New York, 35-22
Sacramento, 37-17

Opponents 137, Heat 71.

Last edited 15 days ago by SunManFromDogBone
Sharkey

Thanks for taking time to look up the stats. It is crazy, right? 137-71!!!

SunManFromDogBone

Yup. Spo needs to start lighting a fire under the players’ asses at halftime or Riley needs to light a fire under Spo’s ass!

Reality Czech

We got pushback in the offseason for advocating for a Butler trade. Now the same voice who said we’d be mediocre without Butler is saying how bad we are WITH Butler.
And for those who thought Pelle would not see the floor the entire season? I’m happy you were wrong. He’s a solid young player.
I do think, however, most of us will be right about Ware. I am sure he will be fine when he is given the opportunity. C’mon Spo, you took a chance with Pelle, please do the same with Ware!

SunManFromDogBone

If the Heat come back with a losing record after this road trip, I think it is time for Riley to start thinking about starting Ware and trading Butler for young studs and picks. Houston would love to have him.

Sharkey

I haven’t seen the game yet. But looking at the stats one can easily spot the usual culprits:
1. Free throws – wtf is wrong with this team and ft shooting? Fix it. We used to be one of the best ft shooting teams. It is a big deal if we lose by 1 point!
2. Turd quarter – not fun anymore. Losing the 3rd by 20 points??? It’s become Death, taxes and turd quarter.
3. Rebounds. Obviously we need to improve. Based only on this game’s numbers it was not so bad, but we cannot allow such offensive rebound in the last second. Ok, we knew with Sabonis it would be hard, but we have to get better. I don’t care which way.

heat for life

sac a pretty small team like us.sabonis only big dude.bam is so undersized at c.ware is he spobot,

vagibugi

Turd, FT and rebounding are definitely things to improve. While FT and rebounding is mostly a problem of concentration, turd might be a condition problem.

Its clear Heat wants to play high tempo and outrun the opposite team, but when good teams elevate the intensity in third, Heat seems doesn’t have an answer.

Big_guy305

Missing 9 fts is unacceptable. These guys missed so many fts like it spread through the team like an infection. Jimmy in particular looks like his shot got worst or maybe his highlighted braids was too tight, there was a point where he missed 2 straight fts. Like this game was there for the taking, even the refs took away 2 points from the kings, that 4 point play was weak. Also that last rebound was RIDICULOUS. spo should of made an adjustment and switched out pelle or Tyler for some size. I hope this lost doesn’t come back to bite us. Good thing we’re in the east and not the west. These guys need to practice fts, boxing out, and layups. Spo might need to change that starting lineup soon too, since it’s the worst starting unit so far in terms of plus minus.

heat for life

terry ty doesnt work.have one come off the bench as a go to guy

Big_guy305

Maybe you’re right, but I rather see how both them play with love or Jaquez or locksmith starting over jovic, before taking herro, or rozier out. We still got time to tinker with lineups since we’re 3rd in the eastern conference currently.

SunManFromDogBone

We are only tied for third because with Nets and Knicks because several playoff teams have had bad (under .500) starts e.g., Indiana, Orlando, Philadelphia and Milwaukee. Only two teams in East are over .500.

Last edited 15 days ago by SunManFromDogBone
Sharkey

Herro has been our best player in the first quarter/half in almost every game this season. We need him to start, it is one of the things that are working. We could discuss Rozier, but we don’t have a better pg. J-Rich is rusty and Dru has had good moments, but he is not close to Rozier’s level. I don’t see a better option than Terry and Ty starting.

SunManFromDogBone

If you send Rozier to second unit, who would you start at PG?

Last edited 15 days ago by SunManFromDogBone
Reality Czech

Herro has been one of the high points of this early season. He’s earned the right to stay in the starting lineup. If anyone moves, it should be Rozier. And I still believe Jovic shouldn’t be in the starting lineup either.

Big_guy305

I’m in full agreement with you 😌

Sharkey

Although Jovic has improved, he hasn’t achieved a starter quality yet imho. But actually I don’t mind him starting the games. He is very good in transition offense, he is fast and a good passer and usually is able to score in the beginning of the game. As the game progresses he seems to become less effective. This is just my observation, but I haven’t seen all games. So, I would prefer him to start the games, than to close. But I agree that the PF position is our weakness.

SunManFromDogBone

Better off the bench. Less pressure and able to run and grow at his own pace. Butler slows the team down. His slow down/half court style is holding the young bucks back from running.

vagibugi

Well, hat hurts.
At least we have Pelle.

SunManFromDogBone

Zach Edey: 29 minutes, 25 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 blocks
Kel’el Ware: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
Highsmith and Richardson not playing well
Larsson looks like legit role player next to Jaquez.

If Pat isn’t going trade for another scorer/rebounder like Kuzma, then…
Start Ware at C, Bam at PF, Butler at SF, Herro at SG and Rozier at PG
Jaquez, Larsson, Robinson, Jovic, Love
Smith, Richardson, Highsmith, Bryant

heat for life

highsmith minutes so minimal anyway.not a spo fav,u know u get primo d and hes not a bad offensive player just very unselfish on the offensive end.should be ahead of dunc on the pecking order.do u think if wares in the game with bam sabonis gets that winning rebound,,why would u have tyler out there when u need a stop to win the fn game.why eric pls explain.

SunManFromDogBone

Highsmith’s unselfishness is costing him playing time. Heat does not need passive players. If Highsmith and Jovic were more like Jaquez, they could be tearing shit up. Hell Larsson shows more aggressiveness than either one of them and he’s a friggin rookie.

Big_guy305

Shameful loss snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

heat for life

when u need a stop at the end why is tyler on the floor.u got a 7ft monster that never plays.what a great time to put him in game but hes spobotic eric the goat

ManilaHeat

this loss sucks

ManilaHeat

make. your. fts.

Reality Czech

That. Is. Correct. If they do, the putback is entirely irrelevant.

Reality Czech

9 missed free throws 21-30. Sac 15-17. Plus, a foul on 3 pointer near the end for a 4 point play.

heat for life

all that said get that rebound we win.bam 6 9 jim 6 7 pelle ty 6 5 6 5 terry 6 1.

Bout30man

We made a lot of threes, mostly shot well, still lost. Need more from the four.

Deadsori123

Practice those effin free throws heat!!!

Reality Czech

💯

heat for life

too small eric but u like small teams

Zac

The goat coach comes up with a play that the final look is a 35 foot three?

Sigh, gonna be a long frustrating season. My expectations weren’t high, but this team makes everything difficult.

heat for life

that ball has got to be thrown at the rim with a bam tip in or foul

Deadsori123

Those boards killed us

heat for life

every game get killed on boards

Bout30man

Heartbreaker.

heat for life

between this and the dolphins game double heartbreak

Reality Czech

Effing free throws!!!

heat for life

heartbreaker

heat for life

ware time spobot too small eric

heat for life

wow wheres ware

heat for life

ty better be off ct now

heat for life

ty d yes

Reality Czech

Herro has really improved defensively

Reality Czech

68% free throws. Could cost us

heat for life

suns den min away comeon sched makers

heat for life

pelle leaned into him not a dirty foul

Reality Czech

Pelle is one tough young man

Last edited 16 days ago by Reality Czech
InsuranceMan

Fox leaned into it at the end, liked to see Herro give Fox grief about it

heat for life

makeup for bams shenanigans

Reality Czech

I did think that was a shot clock violation

heat for life

malik monk certified heat killer

heat for life

nice pass by dunc and a nice tip by dunc to bam

InsuranceMan

Like the sound I’m hearing from Kaseya center, sounds like a good atmosphere tonight. We get jimmy running the floor and having an active 4th quarter could be good tone setting for the heat and good inside the team

heat for life

j poor bad

heat for life

josh when young was a very avg player 10 years later

InsuranceMan

Tuning how’s the game been

heat for life

up by 15 at half pelle and ty were very good

Reality Czech

Great, first half. Terrible third-quarter.

heat for life

suns denver minn thats 3 ls wow

heat for life

pelle should have started out on fox ty and terry both bad defenders

heat for life

pelle was playing so good should have started him what doe shnoz do for u spobot

Big_guy305

I’ll ttyl I’m going to gym, hopefully we win, I’ll watch last quarter when I get back.

Reality Czech

24 point turnaround. Awful.

Zac

Pat’s running it back for the 6th straight year is just laughable. This isn’t a team that’s close. Either Pat’s too washed to see it, too washed to fix it or Mickey is too cheap to allow it to happen.

At this point I’d rather be bad than stuck in this purgatory of rooting for a .500 team, that won’t make noise in the playoffs.

I can only hope they recognize the futile effort and try and package Jimmy for some picks and cap space.

Zac

Jimmy and Bam ain’t stars. Run it back team is looking awful similar to last years trash.

heat for life

true

Big_guy305

Another turd quarter

ManilaHeat

ouch…cmon Heat!

heat for life

bam taken a shot?

heat for life

terrys d is not good

heat for life

timeout

heat for life

tys great 1st half shooting 30% second half

ManilaHeat

t3erry

heat for life

what does spo say to these guys at halftime.try something else eric

heat for life

put pelle in take the shnoz out

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