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NBA GAMETHREAD: Miami Heat (3-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-1)

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Injury Report:

Miami Heat:

  • Jaime Jaquez Jr. (illness) — OUT
  • Kevin Love (return to conditioning) — OUT

Phoenix Suns:

  • Bradley Beal (elbow) — AVAILABLE

Starting 5:

Miami Heat:

  • Terry Rozier, G
  • Tyler Herro, G
  • Jimmy Butler, F
  • Nikola Jovic, F
  • Bam Adebayo, C

Phoenix Suns:

  • Tyus Jones, G
  • Devin Booker, G
  • Bradley Beal, G
  • Kevin Durant, F
  • Jusuf Nurkic, C

Broadcast Info:

  • Tipoff: 9:00 PM EST
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heat for life

to make ty a winning type player hes got to up his assists shooting% and his d.hes trending that way need a little more dishing than shooting though.one on one players trae youngs james hardens of the world not good for ws

vagibugi

That was by far the best game game this year against quality opponent. I m not disappointed. We were buried by one of the best at the end.

Still, Bam cant do anything right, and Rosier was bad. With those two played like that, an average Butler we don’t have much chance.

Its obvious, why Ware didn’t play much till now. But I suppose its better to play him as a backup center then Bryant to get some experience.

Bout30man

Agree with all you say, especially might as well play Ware anyway. People think that the transition can be instantaneous for a rookie, but it never is. Even the players who became superstars took time to adjust. Still, there is no other hope we have. There is a chance that he could make a difference, maybe eventually even enough to make us competitive with the better teams. You could see last night that the good teams are only a little better than us, mostly due to our line up being not deep enough in quality. Ware could eventually close that gap.

Last edited 4 hours ago by Bout30man
SunManFromDogBone

Start ware on this road trip. I would rather lose games while he gets his feet wet and gains experience and confidence, than seeing Bam altering his shots and getting them blocked by taller centers. He could have guarded Durant tonight and Ware could have played center. I was happy to see Highsmith playing much more assertively. Either the coaches or team psychologist was able to reach him or he has been reading my posts. He’s a completely different player when he is passive vs when he is assertive. Burkes and Larsson are handy to have off the bench.

Starters: Ware, Bam, Butler, Herro, Rozier
2nd Unit: Burkes, Pelle, Jaquez, Highsmith, Love or Bryant

heat for life

bam and terry lost the game.ware was fine just needs pt/just the size and length of arms something we havent seen since shaq and zo

Alien

Good game. Good effort. Disappointing finishing.
Go Heat, Go!

Big_guy305

We played good enough to win, but just wasn’t good enough. Between Jimmy’s brain fart, and rozier playing like trash. Spo left Terry in wayyy too long, and bam had a rough night. It’s clear we need to make some moves. Also shoutout to locksmith, he played one of his best games ever, you can see he has improved his game, and needs consistent pt going forward. It’s sucks to lose, and hurts even more since we lost that game smh. Something needs to change…

Last edited 16 hours ago by Big_guy305
Bout30man

This shows that Heat are still one player away, another big. Ware, Highsmith, and big four, almost beat a very good team, JJJ and Burks, maybe Larsen, rotation players. The rest not good enough. Need Pat to do something. Need him to make a move. Or just watch as we play good enough to lose close ones. Sad situation as we are close.

heat for life

enough with shnoz and dunc spobot.

Bout30man

Yes. But Pat keeps checkmating ourselves by investing in untradable players. Close to good enough isn’t good enough. It’s almost like Pat decided late in his career to get engaged in a social experiment, albeit somewhat associated with constantly having draft choices in the mid teens. But, it almost seems like late in his career he wanted to turn the clocks back to when Kentucky with Rick Robey played Texas Wesleyan in the NCAA finals in the sixties. Pat should get courts named after him, but he is now a fossilized relic pretending to be a GM, and lately having some bad team building tendencies that have saddled this team with some serious mistakes, unfixable ones.

Last edited 16 hours ago by Bout30man
Reality Czech

We’ve had this dance before. In recent/Butler years, I only recall 2 ‘untradable contracts, Duncan and Lowry, and Lowry was traded. The biggest recent mistake was placating Butler by giving Lowry $87 million for 3 years. The Bam and Herro contracts are standard in today’s NBA.

Bout30man

True, and one of the untradable contracts, Herro, kind of rectified itself, as he raised his game where I think there now would be trade partners where previously there were not. How we got out of the Lowry move and actually got a decent player for a pick, was nice. But Lowry was still an awful move, especially for the money. And Dunc remains unmoveable. And, think there is much market for Jovic?, maybe only in a package. Love, Bryant, JRich, unmovable. Not so much salary issues, but definitely taking up space.

Reality Czech

Bryant is possible if a team loses its center to injury. Duncan only has a partial guarantee for next season, so should be tradable at the deadline or after the season. Love probably isn’t going anywhere. J Rich? I don’t know. Jovic just turned 21, so that and his size should make him a target for some teams. Think of the type of player we could have gotten for the $29 million a year Lowry got. Oh well.

Bout30man

Yes, I am one that is close now to giving up on Jovic, as a starter. I am sorry as I want him to succeed too. But, people don’t realize how hard it is, how rarified the air is up there with starters in the nba. You can look good one minute and stink the next and you just need to have a good percentage more of the good over the stinky. Jovic is around fifty percent good, fifty stinky. Anyway, yes, Jovic still has potential upside and can be packaged, probably not a one for one trade asset yet though.

Bout30man

I regret lumping JRich with Bryant and Love. JRich was serviceable last year a lot and I distinctly remember he started out last year just as badly as this one. I like having Burks and JRich in the rotation, as seventh to ninth players. Highsmith and JJJ are good rotation players too. Dunc we keep for instant offense, and Bryant backs up Ware or Bam. We need Ware to blossom, and then we can pick up at the deadline a supporting big, if this team is still in it. The key, with no trades, is Ware, how much he contributes will be key to us being in it at the deadline.

Reality Czech

Bottom line is this team, on several levels, just can’t afford to be a play-in team for the third year in a row. The only way to add is by subtracting.

Zac

One can only hope at this point that they just start tanking and ship out Jimmy/Bam/Herro and hope to get Cooper Flagg next year.

Otherwise this .500 purgatory we Heat fans are stuck in, only gets worse.

heat for life

the dolphins of bball

InsuranceMan

Tanking for cooper Flagg really

Big_guy305

You crazy for that, I rather just ship out Jimmy, dunc and maybe rozier. But gotta hold on to herro and bam. Even if we tank, it’s not a sure thing we would even get the first pick, plus I don’t even think we got a 1st round pick this year.

Reality Czech

Good point. If they rebuild, you start with Bam, Herro (who has been very good so far this season), Ware, Pelle, Christopher, Keshad, and maybe Stevens.

heat for life

should have just played ware pelle locksmith burks and tyler.those were your best players top 15 c

Reality Czech

I think those of us who wanted to see Butler traded this off-season had the right idea.

Zac

Pat is a joke at this point. Game left him in the dust after he formed the big three. Since then he strikes out with every whale, over pays his middling talent, and is now trapped with a bloated wanna be super star, who is too old, or too uninterested in earning his pay check.

heat for life

only reason bosh bron came here was dwade not pat

Bout30man

Good comments.I keep thinking, doesn’t anyone else see? It started around 2020 and has gotten worse with each year since. But, Jimmy, thru his greatness, covered up the problematic choices Pat started making around then. If you make a list of all the transactions, and all the near misses where we did nothing while whale watching, and all the untradable contracts, it’s very obvious how poorly Pat has done since then. Rozier was the one notable exception, and even he is just a high B+, low A- type.

Bout30man

Definitely. And now we are just good enough to lose close ones against the better teams. Doesn’t make us feel any better to have told them so.

Reality Czech

Exactly

Zac

35 year old Butler passing the ball with the clock expiring instead of just taking a bad shot. This team is so cooked. Thanks Pat and Mickey.

heat for life

standing pat.should be shown the back door

Bout30man

Not Mickey’s fault. Pat just stayed too long. I have been saying this for two years. It’s like a Julia Sweeney of SNL movie, It’s Pat.

heat for life

embarassing top 15 coach lol

Bout30man

The current Pat sucks, not afraid to say it, until proven wrong.

heat for life

true but pat riley is like don shula he gets lifetime pass

Bout30man

Did Shula ever have a down period?

heat for life

7 games in jimmys not what we want him to be

Reality Czech

Butler, Bam, Rozier 12-42

heat for life

kd older than jim?he hasnt slowed down at all

Big_guy305

Kd has a way better shot, so his game ages better.

heat for life

so do his legs

heat for life

hh great defender wish he was few inches taller

Reality Czech

Highsmith is making my case for me that he should be the starting power forward.

heat for life

hh wow teach bam how to do that

heat for life

kds still ss

Zac

Jimmy and Bam the most over rated players in the NBA at this point.

Neither has any ability to create their own shot.

Keep running it back Pat.

heat for life

bam never did jimmy once did

Reality Czech

Yes, that was out of bounds

heat for life

got elbow foul

Reality Czech

Was a foul after all. Good.

Reality Czech

If nothing else comes from this, hopefully the Bryant over Ware era is over.

heat for life

no foul theyll win challenge

heat for life

4th qtr ty fading

heat for life

highsmith been best player

Reality Czech

This is another game that we can win. Question is, will they stop the bleeding?

Reality Czech

I’m cursing at the tv

heat for life

nurkic abusing little bam for positioning for rebounds to big and strong mismatch.

Reality Czech

Offensive rebound!

Reality Czech

Bam has been terrible this game

heat for life

agree

heat for life

put lock in for dunc spobot

heat for life

war3e

Reality Czech

Ware 3!

heat for life

putting dunc in bad move spobot

Reality Czech

Good news? We tied them in third quarter. Bad news? Gave up a 15 to 3 run to end the quarter.

heat for life

love pelle the new dan majerle

heat for life

kd impossible to guard

Reality Czech

Pelle!

Reality Czech

Highsmith playing great

heat for life

yes bout time spo put the right player in.

Reality Czech

They should lose this challenge

Reality Czech

Great work by highsmith

heat for life

bams played about as bad as u can play

heat for life

shnozzy your a nice kid but these athletes just to athletic for you

Reality Czech

OK, fasten your seatbelts, here comes the third quarter.

heat for life

how the hell gsw winning all these games

InsuranceMan

Poor half from Terry on both sides of the ball. Don’t really care about Bam’s efficiency thus far, I really like the intention he’s showing

heat for life

3 for 15 matters suks

Reality Czech

I don’t know. I am concerned about 3-15 for any player, especially the #2 or 3 option. I totally agree about Rozier. He’s looked out of sync so far this season. But he’s also the type of player who can hit that critical 3 when you need it.

Reality Czech

Nice first half. Can we skip the third and go directly to the fourth?

heat for life

bum adebayo jeez

heat for life

like this burks pickup

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