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NBA GAMETHREAD: Miami Heat (21-21) @ Milwaukee Bucks (24-17)

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Injury Report:

Miami Heat:

  • Tyler Herro (groin) — AVAILABLE
  • Jimmy Butler (suspension) — OUT
  • Keshad Johnson (shoulder) — OUT
  • Josh Richardson (heel) — OUT
  • Dru Smith (achilles) — OUT

Milwaukee Bucks:

  • AJ Green (left quad strain) — OUT
  • Khris Middleton (bilateral ankle; injury management) — OUT

Starting 5:

Miami Heat:

  • Tyler Herro, G
  • Duncan Robinson, G
  • Pelle Larsson, F
  • Bam Adebayo, F/C
  • Kel’el Ware, C

Milwaukee Bucks:

  • Damian Lillard, G
  • Andre Jackson Jr, G
  • Taurean Prince, F
  • Giannis Antetokounmpo, F
  • Brook Lopez, C

Broadcast Info:

  • Tipoff: 8:30 PM EST
  • TV: TNT, TruTV & Max
  • Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
  • Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)

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Alien

I will not read any meaning into the win or loss column this season. Like, I said some weeks ago, the best way to approach the rest of this season, is to see it as 2006 preseason for the Heat. Let the young players get regular NBA game experience to prop them up for next season. Any trade that will not bring one or two solid 2 way player(s), that will make the team very competitive next season is a futile exercise . It will be another pleasure satisfying exercise to release endorphins.

oregoner

Pat Riley is winning the battle against Jimmy Butler but he’s losing the war

SunManFromDogBone

Pissing contests produce no winners. They are both losing, as are the players and fans. Both egos are too proud to apologize and too stubborn to compromise. They are both waiting for the other one to blink.

This issue should have been addressed by Pat a long time ago, rather than being left to fester. He’s apparently already written this year off.

oregoner

yeah, i think everyone on hhh thought Jimmy was gone after last season. Pat should have moved him in the offseason. Hopefully this is over with soon

Alien

Ditto.

Last edited 59 minutes ago by Alien
Alien

A bit surprised with Riley considering all his achievements. A good lesson in life, it is ALWAYS better to cut your losses sooner and move on than later.

SunManFromDogBone

It’s pretty clear that Bam, Herro and Ware are the team’s future. It’s also clear the team needs to shed some salary and develop the younger players. Any way you cut it, Miami is a play-in team and may not make it out of the play-in round. In that case, they would get to keep their 2025 (lottery) pick.

I would trade Rozier immediately for an expiring contract or an upgrade, if one is available. I don’t know what the Heat plans to do with Duncan, but I don’t think he’s worth $19.88M next year. Miami will be required to pay him a guaranteed $9.9M if they release him or $19,9M if they keep him. It’s better to trade him this year and recoup a young player and a second rounder, or two.

In order to be competitive, Miami needs to add two good starters to go with Bam, Herro and Ware, preferably a true point guard and a scoring small forward. It wouldn’t hurt to get another C/PF who can defend, rebound and score 8-10 points a game, to rotate with Ware and Bam. Somebody like Bobby Portis.

If the alleged multiple team Butler deal falls through with Phoenix, I think Butler for Middleton and Portis (plus a pick) would be a good trade for both Milwaukee and Miami. Both Milwaukee players have options for 2025-2026. I think Portis ($13.4M) may opt out and seek a bigger contract, which he’ll get. Middleton ($34.0M) will probably opt in. Miami may be able to extend Portis if he likes the team, the coaches and the city. As an expiring contract, teams may be interested in trading for Middleton.

One other thing, as we saw the potential in Ware, several of us have seen the potential in Isaiah Stevens (as a very good pass-first/high assist point guard) and Keshad Johnson (as a Highsmith-type defender in a Butler-type body) who can score and rebound. I wouldn’t mind seeing both players getting some quality time on the court in the next few weeks. They just may surprise some people the way Ware has. Speaking of Ware, 20 points, 10 rebounds, 1 steal and 2 blocks? Are you kidding me? Dude is only 20 years old!

GO HEAT!!!

Big_guy305

Only brightside of the game was ware . Other then that I’m cold af 🤧

heat for life

its time to play jovic and jjj see if there nba starters roleplayers .this SPOradic play time of jjj i believe has hurt his progress.dunc terry not part of future.play the youngens see what we have.right now 3 decent nba players and not much else or do we have some pieces

Bout30man

Yes, that’s the question. And why we have to get some help in the trade, or we need draft picks or cap space to start a partial rebuild. Either way, this team’s future is cloudy, uncertain. We also need new leadership.

ManilaHeat

Lol we suck

Reality Czech

I changed the channel a few minutes ago. absolutely impossible to watch. Riley has to resolve this issue so this team can move on.

Last edited 5 hours ago by Reality Czech
Zac

Riley is a big part of this issue. Micky needs to make changes. This team has been mired in mediocrity since LeBron left. Riley no longer sways stars to come here, and his hatred of draft picks, results in throwing away potential talent for the likes of Rozier.

Jimmy may be enemy number one, and he surely won’t come out of smelling like roses, but Riley’s stench is on all of these problems too.

Team shoulda been tanking all season, and it’s not too late to start. Spo needs to suck it up and play the kids big minutes. And while it may be blasphemy, if I was in charge, I might start looking to move Bam too.

By the time this team is ready to compete again, Bam won’t be what he is today. And with his offensive regression, trade the elite defender while he still has value.

Last edited 5 hours ago by Zac
Bout30man

Nice to have someone else on this forum who sees what I do. I only came aboard five years ago. I assume he made far shrewder moves previously. We have another winter sports GM, Bill Zito of the Panthers, who is infinitely more savvy, more prepared, more creative. Watching him over the last three years, there is no comparison. Someone here asked what Riley did wrong other than Lowry, and I always say, look at his transactions starting in 2021, snd watch them get progressively worse. I wonder why everyone here puts up with Riley, gives him so much slack, but I figure he used to be better, just got too old for the job.

Reality Czech

Okay, let’s start with 2021. You know how I feel about the bad contracts of Lowry and Duncan. Let’s look deeper. I will not address 2 way contracts.
August 7, 2021 re-signed F Jimmy Butler. Signed F P.J. Tucker.
August 6, 2021 re-signed Gs Max Strus, Gabe Vincent, F Duncan Robinson and C Dewayne Dedmon. Acquired G Kyle Lowry from Toronto.
May 14, 2021 signed C Omer Yurtseven to a remainder-of-the-season contract.
Okay there’s the Lowry and Duncan contracts. The rest were all signed to very team friendly terms. Maybe you can argue Dedmon at $9 million for 2 years, but who would you have signed for that $4.5 million? I just don’t see any massive errors there. So let’s start there since you specified 2021 above. I’m not a Riley homer. But now I have listed exactly what transactions there were. You always say look, so now I looked. What could he have done better? I will do other years in the future.

Last edited 9 minutes ago by Reality Czech
Alien

Nice to read another angle other than the boring blame Jimmy Butler is the culprit opinions

Last edited 1 hour ago by Alien
heat for life

i dont think tnt gonna have heat on anymore.

heat for life

hopefully last year of dunc d think this last year of that stupid contract pat gave him.need 2 way ballers.got 3 only.think jaime should be getting duncs minutos.

ManilaHeat

Larson in. Might get 3 fouls right away lol

heat for life

ill take 3 pts

ManilaHeat

I don’t care if Heat lose to these Bucks. As long as Jimmy’s not playing anymore. Playing Ware more getting him acclimated with Bam might be goal for now.

heat for life

jimmys gone just ? of when what we can get

heat for life

wow pathetic ending.tyler taking shot 10 secs left dunc foul dame dagger .guess this is the new way for mediocre heat

Reality Czech

Just awful! 6 totally unwarranted points! And things go bad, they really go bad

heat for life

spos gotta let lineups playing good stay in longer.as soon as he pulled ware that was it.

Reality Czech

There couldn’t be a much dumber foul

ManilaHeat

not looking good. again

Reality Czech

What a draft pick gem!!

ManilaHeat

cmon Ty…you got your rest

ManilaHeat

Ware!

Bout30man

This seems to be where we lose games, falling behind when the second team gets minutes. Partly the defense gets worse, and mostly because we don’t get enough scoring.

Sharkey

Good observation! That was the issue last time and we see it tonight again

Bout30man

Another observation, perhaps Portland is figuring something out as they are blowing out Orlando with their two stars back from injury. You never know when teams get on streaks.

Reality Czech

Now can’t post a new comment. Whatever 🙄

ManilaHeat

you have to go down, scroll down for new comment hehe

Reality Czech

Oh dear Lord!

Reality Czech

I thought you were just testing my sanity 😆

heat for life

hh can u try to score more please

heat for life

bam ware bam ware bam ware

heat for life

jimmys best playoff series was vs milw he was jumping out of the roof.looked spectacular.that guy doesnt exist anymore phoenix

heat for life

billy idol like to see him seen joan jett

Reality Czech

Thank you, much needed.

ManilaHeat

thanks!

ManilaHeat

trent killer

heat for life

gary trent jr nice p/u for them

heat for life

jovic playing really bad

Sharkey

Yeah, him and Terry struggling

Reality Czech

I wonder what’s up with Keshad’s shoulder? We could’ve used him this game.

heat for life

yeah hes been in street clothes lately

heat for life

3 pt lead i guess u have to take ware out.spo cant deal with tall lineups too long

heat for life

i forgot has terry had a good game this year hes played in every game

Sharkey

Yeah, playing terrible tonight

heat for life

there havent been more than 1 lol

Sharkey

Exactly, to be fair he had one good game

Last edited 6 hours ago by Sharkey
heat for life

dunc steaL and finish

Sharkey

Great play Duncan

Reality Czech

Duncan!

ManilaHeat

nice mr. robinson

heat for life

nice challenge doc overrated coach

ManilaHeat

yeah that celts ring really was milked

heat for life

rc do u agree taking ware out when team is on a roll

Reality Czech

No

Reality Czech

This is the new staggered center rest strategy. It’s why we need a new backup center.

heat for life

ware out spobot sub guys 20 years old whats he tired its his third game

ManilaHeat

this Bam/Ware combo i think was supposed to be “inaugurated” later in the season. but with the butler drama its here now. and we’re all loving it right?

Reality Czech

Definitely

Sharkey

Hell yeah

heat for life

inaugurated lol

heat for life

america we have the best rookie

heat for life

gr8 start bam ware eye candy

Reality Czech

Anyway, Let’s go Heat! And, Please go, Jimmy Butler!

ManilaHeat

go where? Pat asking haha

Sharkey

Where the Suns don’t shine

Reality Czech

Man, took Big Guy’s advise and googled the site. Otherwise, wouldn’t load up.

ManilaHeat

tyleeeeeeeeeer!!!!!

ManilaHeat

Pelle starting. and Pelle 3 fouls right away lol

heat for life

pelle 3 fouls 2 mins lol

ManilaHeat

there you go…GO HEAT!!

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