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NBA GAMETHREAD: Miami HEAT (26-29) @ Atlanta Hawks (26-31)

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Injury Report

Miami Heat:

  • Tyler Herro (groin) — AVAILABLE
  • Keshad Johnson (G-League) — OUT
  • Dru Smith (achilles) — OUT
  • Kevin Love (personal reasons) — OUT

Atlanta Hawks:

  • Larry Nance Jr. (knee) — OUT
  • Jalen Johnson (shoulder) — OUT
  • Vit Krejci (back) — OUT
  • Kobe Bufkin (shoulder) — OUT

Starting 5:

Miami Heat:

  • Tyler Herro, G
  • Davion Mitchell, G
  • Andrew Wiggins, F
  • Bam Adebayo, F
  • Kel’el Ware, C

Atlanta Hawks: 

  • Dyson Daniels, G
  • Trae Young, G
  • Mouhamed Gueye, F
  • Zaccharie Risacher, F
  • Onyeke Okongwu, C

Broadcast Info:

  • Tipoff: 7:30 PM EST
  • TV: FanDuel Sports Network Sun (Eric Reid & John Crotty)
  • Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
  • Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)

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Zac

@RC you asked why I’m calling out Pat and management:

Well go back a ways:
Ty Johnson contract
James Johnson contract
Dion Waiters contract
Precious Achiuwa over Tyreese Maxey
Duncan Robinson extension
Kyle Lowry trade
Vic Olidipo trade
Terry Rozier trade
Jimmy Butler contract – no matter the return, it’s clear the situation was botched.

There’s been others (Haywood Highsmith getting lots of run lately huh?)

As for the cheap owner, yeah high payroll, but I’ll forever remember him breaking up the LeBron years early, with his unwillingness to pay luxury tax and dropping LeBron’s friend Mike Miller. Can easily add the letting Wade walk too. Wade may have been close to washed, but they didnt want to pay him.

Reality Czech

Thanks. Agree on TJ, JJ, Dion, Duncan, Lowry, and I would add Whiteside to your list. Precious at the time was projected as a top 10 pick, so it wasn’t a mistake to choose him there. The same thing happened with Winslow/Booker. Stuff like that happens. Instead of Beasley, they could have had Love, Westbrook, or Brook. I was all for a Butler trade during trading season last year. His play was often lackadaisical, and we could have gotten a much better return then. Ultimately, his poor attitude, play, and public comments deep sixed the team. Did Riley deserve a share of the blame? Sure. Was the debacle mostly on Butler? Yes.
At the salary level Highsmith is at, he’s given the Heat value, but, yes, not lately.
The Olidipo situation was very unfortunate. He was a pretty dynamic player when healthy. Making the second year a team option would’ve been a better idea.
No one could have expected Rozier to have this bad a season based on his history. His numbers are down from his career averages in almost every category.
LeBron broke up the LeBron years, not Riley. And LeBron was so upset about the Miller cut, but didn’t give a rats butt when Cleveland dumped him. Just like telling the Heat to draft Napier.
So, I absolutely don’t disagree with you on everything, but I do disagree with you on some issues. But I appreciate you spelling out your position.

SunManFromDogBone

I think Riley knew he should have traded Butler last summer. But, after Butler came into camp with a smile and a positive attitude, Pat probably thought he was going to set the same positive tone for the season that he had set in Training camp. Apparently, Butler later changed his mind, became a disruptive force and eventually quiet quit on his teammates in order to force a trade.

https://allucanheat.com/posts/3-observation-miami-heat-return-from-training-camp

I do think both Riley and Spo have had a bad couple of years. I expect Riley to retire in the next year or two. Maybe when he does, Spo can move into his spot and Miami can promote or recruit a new coach who has a track record of teambuilding and creating a winning attitude and developing winning teams.

Last edited 1 hour ago by SunManFromDogBone
Alien

Easy, easy, easy on Pat.
True a few mistakes were made but I won’t blame him for Duncan’ s extension. Duncan was blazing 🔥 and could have gone elsewhere. It would have been tough to see your developmental project go elsewhere. I still have not given up on Duncan.
Yes, there have been miscues.
I think it all boiled down to being cheap with the rest. You get what you pay for.

heatforlife

im not upset we are mediocre cant wait till off season

SunManFromDogBone

That will be the first step. Second step will be summer of 2026 when Rozier, Highsmith and Love contracts expire. Hopefully, Robinson will be gone this summer one way or the other. Burks and Mitchell may also be gone this summer. The Heat needs to put the brakes on mortgaging the future next year by trading its assets or by bringing in a washed up player. One more year before Heat will be in a financial and cap position to bring in a whale. There will be several all-star caliber free agents in 2026. See below.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/_/year/2026/sort/contract_value

heatforlife

better days are coming yes not this year gn eric

heatforlife

u just have to lower your expectations and enjoy eric reid..ty eric for your great announcing

heatforlife

jimmy why did u do this to me big and rc we dont deverve it

Big_guy305

We deserve not to make playoffs smh, I’m going to roll up, smoke, and go to gym.

Zac

I’m not mad about the losses, but they’d be more enjoyable if the kids got more run.

Burks getting 27 minutes, while Mitchell got less, while Pelle get none…frustrating.

This team is not competitive, lose with gaining experience versus losing with 36 year olds.

heatforlife

very good point

Reality Czech

I agree with that. The perennial ‘win now’ approach is fine if you have a legitimate chance to win it all. They didn’t last season and even less of a chance this season. Give reasonable minutes to Keshad, Pelle, Christopher, Stevens, and, of course, Ware. There will be errors, missed shots, and turnovers, but it will allow them to learn, and give management an opportunity to see what they have.

heatforlife

what is wares injury?spobot

Zac

Ware looked perfectly fine walking off the court. Ware’s injury more likely Spo mismanagement.

Our coach has been dealt a bad hand, but he hasn’t made it better.

In fact he’s had made the biggest gaffe I’ve seen from an nba coach in a long time with that calling a timeout to lose with none for a tech against the Pistons.

I for one am rooting for an organizational blow up this off season. He culture seems dead. He’s GM is washed. And Heat’s head coach looks burned out.

Hothothoopsfan4life

Spo has been bad since he signed that extension. Defend him to the high heavens/basketball gods all y’all want he has not been good since then poor rotations, not playing rookies early when they should, sticking with guys he shouldn’t etc etc etc. yes management hasn’t helped but he’s not blameless in none of this.

heatforlife

we had wade bron bosh shaq jimmy ok so now we are mediocre critical off season coming

Zac

How do you have a critical off season with no cap room and limited draft assets? You don’t. You run it back…again.

heatforlife

trade bam let ware roam the middle

Hothothoopsfan4life

I’d rather trade Herro than bam

heatforlife

what is keshod johnson i know what dunc jjj slo mo burks hh etc they are all below avg players night in night out lots evidence of that.

Zac

Miami down 20, with 3 seconds left.

Eric Reid: “It’s slipping away folks”

heatforlife

hes da best zac .he is the miami heat if jason jackson was doing games dont think id be watching

heatforlife

when your best player suks u usually suk.d wade never had games like ty has had

heatforlife

ware must be injured i guess

Big_guy305

The only thing that makes sense, cuz burks been terrible tonight.

Reality Czech

Time running out

Big_guy305

This is spo’s worst season coaching in a long time.

heatforlife

wow disagree with that call

Big_guy305

Screw you ref

Reality Czech

BS call!

Big_guy305

That should be a clear path.

heatforlife

diubt we get that call ill take the foul call

heatforlife

trae held first

Reality Czech

Young grabbed him first

Big_guy305

I don’t understand why burks still in, where is ware?

heatforlife

spobot part of our problem big

Big_guy305

Yea he’s stubborn as an ox.

heatforlife

wares where smh

heatforlife

burks has the caleb martin line drive shot

Zac

Herro, Robinson, and Burks have combined to go 5 for 34. Impressive.

heatforlife

herro gets a pass other two no .did u watch ast night night before night before night before,tys been great all year

Big_guy305

Might need go back with 6th man pelle, and call up keshad from gleague.

Reality Czech

Atlanta over the limit with half of a quarter left, meaning every foul is free throws for the Heat. And that slows the game down a bit. Still a chance.

heatforlife

wheres ware smh

Big_guy305

We need ware in this

heatforlife

like slomos shake n bake that was sweet

heatforlife

bam took a paid vacation tonight

Big_guy305

Closing lineup should be herro,wiggy,slo-mo,bam,ware.

Reality Czech

I’ll say this for Duncan. He tried his very best to foul LeVert on that rundown. 😆

Big_guy305

Slo-mo Been the 3rd best player tonight.

heatforlife

i got ware wiggy 1 2

Big_guy305

I got wiggy, ware 1 2

heatforlife

wares been our best player hello eric wake up he aint tired

Big_guy305

If we lose this on the players

Big_guy305

About time burks

Last edited 4 hours ago by Big_guy305
Reality Czech

Then hits a 3, finally

Big_guy305

Only thing he did all night smh

heatforlife

wheres ware he s been really good.put bam on bench.ware aint tired spobot bam is

Big_guy305

Only Wiggins came to play offensively.

Big_guy305

That should be foul hit Wiggins in the face

Reality Czech

Wiggins single-handedly trying to keep us in this game. Unfortunately, not getting much help anywhere else.

heatforlife

refs suk to

heatforlife

the announcing been great as usual.the play on the ct not mediocre tonight just bad

Big_guy305

At least free throw shooting been good .

Big_guy305

Burks been cheeks tonight.

heatforlife

ty?

Big_guy305

Bad too, but I think he tired after that 40 piece.

heatforlife

dunc u r the worse def player ive ever seen

Big_guy305

Worst then babbitt?

heatforlife

yes yes yes

Reality Czech

Lol. I am so on board with you about seeing Duncan gone after the season. Enough is enough. That dumb foul with 1 second left was abysmal.

heatforlife

wow rc im shocked

Reality Czech

Haha

heatforlife

slomo dunc playing over terry right decision who would have ever thunk that

heatforlife

ind won 16 of 21 thats a team that might challenge bost cleve?

Big_guy305

Depends on coaching remember he blew like 2 games against Boston, but I feel like it’s either Cleveland or Boston coming out the east.

heatforlife

thats what everybody says but u win 16 of 21 thats impressive

Big_guy305

Still in this mud wrestling fest .

Big_guy305

Ware Been decent tonight

ManilaHeat

So….Heat with the deficit. They’re flipping the story and they’ll come from behind and win 😁😁

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