Jaime Jaquez Jr. discusses what he wants to improve most entering 2024-25

Jaime Jaquez Jr.
Jaime Jaquez Jr. was one of the NBA’s top rookies in 2023-24. (Megan Briggs/Getty Images)

The Miami Heat, less than 48 hours removed from getting eliminated in five games to the Boston Celtics, conducted exit interviews Friday afternoon. While it was optional, almost every player spoke, including Heat rookie Jaime Jaquez Jr.

From the moment that the first summer league game tipped off in early July, Jaquez, who the Heat selected No. 18 overall in the 2023 NBA Draft, bursted onto the scene.

He got hurt midway through his second summer league contest with a shoulder injury and did not play another game until preseason. Nevertheless, despite fighting a midseason groin injury, he still put together a strong rookie season with Miami. On Friday, Jaquez discussed what he wanted to improve most heading into his sophomore NBA season.

“Being able to be a lockdown defender,” he said Friday during his exit interview. “As well as (being) a consistent knockdown shooter are probably the two biggest things.”

Jaquez won the Eastern Conference rookie of the month award in November and December. He averaged 11.9 points, 3.8 rebounds and 2.6 assists, shooting 48.9 percent from the floor, 32.2 percent from 3-point range and 81.1 percent from the free-throw line across 75 regular season games.

Before suffering the groin injury in mid-Jan., and before opposing teams started developing counters for him, the 23-year-old blossomed off the bench when the Heat were down Tyler Herro and, at some points, Jimmy Butler.

Jaquez had a 31-game stretch from Nov. 11 to Jan. 14 where he posted 16.0 points, 4.2 rebounds, 2.9 assists and 1.1 steals on 51.5/37.5/84.0 shooting splits–equating to a 56.4 effective field goal percentage and 60.3 true-shooting percentage.

“Sometimes, (opposing teams) would try to send two (defenders), (so) be prepared for the trap,” he said when asked about possible counters to think about in the summer. “Especially in the post, where I think the report was out on me. So developing counters, reading defenses and understanding how to still get to my spots.”

Jaquez attempted the fourth-most catch-and-shoot 3-point attempts, knocking them down at a 34.3 percent clip, which was the second-lowest clip on the team (min. 50 spot-up 3PA). He was also one of Miami’s most proficient post-up players, posting 1.1 points per possession, grading in the 66th percentile on such possessions, per NBA.com’s synergy tracking data; he was one of its better cutters, averaging 1.3 points per cut (42nd percentile), scoring on 65.4 percent of those cuts with a 67.4 effective field goal percentage.

He had his peaks and values as an individual defender, but he made strong strides in that department, as well as his team defender. A full offseason with added experience should get Jaquez–featured in myriad roles due to the team’s unsteady health–more acclimated to the Heat’s structure on both ends of the floor.

“It’s been great having such an experienced group of veterans around me,” Jaquez said. “To be able to learn under them and take what they’ve been giving me has been huge and I think it’s given me an advantage being able to play in my rookie season.”

What do you think Jaquez should improve most entering 2024-25? Let us know in the comments!

 

 

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DiehardHeatFanSince88

Here’s something that’s telling about our Miami Heat and why Riley needs to alter the ingredients in the team recipe.

https://twitter.com/hoopshype/status/1787762908178338087

heat for life

moving screen foot call ind got fukd.nba needs replay last 2 mins on every fkn play,get it right.thats an ind win if game is officiated correctly.moving screen yes slightly but to call that at that time of game ,pass never hit nesmiths foot review that.those resfs should not be able to do another game

SunManFromDogBone

See Riley article comments.

Last edited 21 days ago by SunManFromDogBone
DiehardHeatFanSince88

In summary, he said, Jimmy don’t talk the talk if you’re not willing to walk the walk. And, Herro is fragile. Thus, begin the Riles mind games.

ManilaHeat

Congrats Wemby roty

heat for life

should be on detroit that was rigged for popacheat

ManilaHeat

Timberwolves I guess are made for the mountains

heat for life

there very tall even w/o the eifel tower.the heat are made for what manila

heat for life

anthony edwards prob played high school football.i dont look things up like rc(mr espn.com)

Reality Czech

It probably explains why you’re so clueless and ignorant on so many issues.

heat for life

i have a feel for the game dont need listen to ira winderman dave hyde

Reality Czech

Here’s your feel for the game:
depressing watching butler and bam
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jim is not a dedicated athlete,commercials are for the off season son
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bam looked ok offensively for a while but lately heck no.not sure what happened.prob watching butler suk doesnt help
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he gives me hope jimmy doesnt
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i think they can beat atl, chi not sure ,phily prob not.i cant believe how washed jimmy is
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every guy should be up for trading everybody theres not one keeper
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a team w/o a superstar will not go very far.jimmys done”

Jaquez is our second best player. Jaquez is a bum. Wow, Jaquez!
Is there anything that Jovic can’t do? He’s not an nba player. He’s a very good defender. Who plays like Jovic? Jovic gtfoh.
Precious is a bust. Boy, I sure wish we had Precious.

Great system. If you change your mind as often as the Florida weather, you’re bound to be right sometimes. If you think I base my evaluations and opinions on just one source, you might want to take the blinders off.

heat for life

what am i wrong about i change my mind about young players cause there so up and down(jjj) but after watching ty n dunc for about 4 years they are not good players like u proclaimed.the jurys out on jaime and jovic i hope their studs (all stars)but i doubt it.

Reality Czech

Changing your mind, by definition, means you evaluated something wrong initially.
Look bro, bottom line, is I have tried to have a civil, sometimes funny discourse with you. Your consistent negativity is something I don’t agree with. You say it’s just sports talk – I disagree. From this point forward, I will not respond to, or have further discussions with you. I have no hard feelings and hope you find success and happiness wherever you may seek it. You won’t miss me and I won’t miss you.

ManilaHeat

Know it all guy…every fan base I guess has one or two

heat for life

ty manila im good at business 2.sports means sht

Reality Czech

True Manila. I mostly try to be positive, civil, and friendly to others. Not just here, but in my life in general. It doesn’t always work out, but it does often enough. I enjoy the blog because I love the Heat. There’s a lot of really good members here, and I look forward to more conversations with you, and them.

heat for life

clueless no opinionated yes negative yes positive also

heat for life

jimmy was saying if he was healthy they beat ny boston .i agree.pat says jimmy should just shut up .put yourself in primadonas shoes.hes prob saying alright whats my 5th team gonna be.one thing pat can i please tell u hes right ,

oregoner

Jimmy, like LeBron, came to Miami with no rings. If he’s smart he’ll listen to Pat, shut his mouth, and do what it takes to get over the final hurdle

heat for life

myles turner screen if thats a knick player doing that screen do they call a foul big

heat for life

this game shows u why u cant have dudes like ty and dunc on your team.riley we need ballers not softies

Reality Czech

The Heat season is over, we’re waiting to see what changes there will be in the offseason, and you still go out of your way to disparage these players. Pathetic.

heat for life

thats maybe why were on vaca besides injured jim.one way players suk

heat for life

im not disparaging u ahole now i am putz

heat for life

6133 minn wow

heat for life

joker looks little tired

heat for life

den getting swept?

Big_guy305

Nah

heat for life

young legs tall athletic and ant no gobert tonight impressive i think they can sweep denver

Big_guy305

I think Denver can get at least 1

heat for life

gonna have to be in minn big.joker been stifled even w/o gobert tonight

heat for life

5230

Big_guy305

Still got 2 more games

heat for life

ant get 40 next game, their perimeter d is duncanish lol had to get that in

heat for life

minn to athletic for denver

ManilaHeat

Credit NY for fixing their shooting woes from last season while maintaining their defense. Still Thibs grinding his top dogs might get injury prone 2-3 yrs see Rose, Deng, Noah during Bulls time

heat for life

when u have a guy that gets u 40 a night .a team that gets lots second chance pts.a 6 4 guy that rebounds like a center.i can see jimmy going to ny next year maybe for randle

Big_guy305

If he gets traded to knicks for randle, then I want hart too, or donte added.

heat for life

there not parting with those 2 maybe deuce precious mitch also.randles a 20pt 10 rebound guy just suks in playoffs

Big_guy305

Then they can’t get Jimmy.

Last edited 22 days ago by Big_guy305
heat for life

phily has nothing we want.lakers give us hachimura and reaves

Big_guy305

With Philly we do 3 team trade, and Reaves, rui isn’t enough. Reaves is like herro, so that would be dumb.

Bout30man

Reaves is better than Herro, just a little. But, you are right, he is not what we need.

heat for life

hope halis ok that was awkward land

heat for life

pacers stupid mistakes cost that game

Big_guy305

Exactly 💯, but still was a really good game.

heat for life

yes looks like a 7 game series pretty even.

Big_guy305

Great acting job 👏

heat for life

myles turner was moving

Big_guy305

Knicks play like miami heat, they got a lot of Dawgs on that team.

heat for life

which heat team not current team

Big_guy305

Like last year team, they always play hard, and very gritty, tough as nails.

heat for life

donte d wata baller.

Big_guy305

He turned his career around too with the warriors.

Big_guy305

Great challenge

heat for life

great shot donte d.knicks caught a break hand hit ball not foot bad call refs

heat for life

ty needs some donte fight in him

Big_guy305

He doesn’t have enough of that because donte is a 2 way player.

heat for life

ty needs to get a little nastier on ct

Big_guy305

Only way he can is if he bulks up more, and take his d more seriously.

heat for life

u need to take ty to your gym ,

Big_guy305

Lol he probably need a better gym, I go to planet fitness.

heat for life

when teams are even ill take team with best player ny

heat for life

hart best rebounder since dennis rodman for non center

heat for life

hart will not let ny lose what aballer

ManilaHeat

Hali not even scoring much but a very close game NY got a sleeper in Indy

HHHFAN4Life

So Miami ain’t the only team to make McConnell look like mvp nash. All jokes aside knicks could be going home in the 2nd round again this year. We shall see

Big_guy305

Tj always been underrated, Pacers going to ecf in my opinion, knicks missing randle with hurt them. Also pacers have the better bench, and their fast pace style will tire the knicks out. Especially with thibs running his starting group into the ground with too many minutes.

Last edited 22 days ago by Big_guy305
DiehardHeatFanSince88

I agree. TJ has always been a sparkplug, bringing energy and tenacity to every game. Yes, the Knicks missing Randle is a tough hurdle to overcome. You have to give it to them to end as the second seed and move into the second round of the playoffs. Thibs has these “Villanova” Knicks humming.

Bout30man

My first impression is Indy is gonna give the Knicks a tough test.
Anyone think Pat may have changed a little in his attitude towards Jimmy? If he does get traded, that presser may be one of the first inklings of it.

heat for life

like the knicks in 6.if greek plays ind on vacation.but hes always hurt around playoff time

Big_guy305

I’ll take pacers in 7, not having randle will hurt them, and toppin will get payback.

ManilaHeat

Maybe Riles could straighten out Jimmy with that remark. We can only hope but doesn’t change the fact he’s getting old and fragile. Your move Pat…Go Heat!

heat for life

now the speculation turns to what can we get for jimmy

heat for life

riley criticizes butler.hes as good as gone

Iknowtoomuch

The Godfather has spoken. Jimmy violated the code ”the main thing is keeping the main thing…the main thing”. Jimmy’s latest rant was obviously not well received by Pat. Add the max money demands to the mix spells a bye bye ticket for Jimmy. Pat has stared down Shaq, Lebron, & Wade before . So now Jimmy gets distracted with his hair, commercial interests, and some type of country music career?? Riles may be listening to Kenny Rogers “Gambler” …all about knowing when to fold’em !

DiehardHeatFanSince88

Yep. I believe Riley has just set the gauntlet for what is to come.

Bout30man

There have been so many good reasons posted by everyone to trade Jimmy, value highest, getting older, high salary (biggest reason),skills diminishing a little, lack of availability (second biggest reason), and even outside interests (not sure about that but maybe). But, then some of you conjecture that if we get this whale or semi-whale, that I would keep Jimmy. Well, it Is hard to envision too many scenarios where we have enough money or assets without trading Jimmy to acquire these high quality players to go with him. The second apron thing alone would likely preclude us from building with Jimmy. So, if anyone can, explain to me how we could keep and pay Jimmy, get a whale or semi-whale, afford it under the second apron, and have the assets to acquire such player, knowing we don’t have many picks to offer. If it’s possible, let’s hear how? And make it realistic please.

Last edited 22 days ago by Bout30man
Big_guy305

I’m not good with the numbers or the contract stuff like Sunman or Czech, but it should be possible, for a Mitchell or Murray trade. Murray would be the cheapest of the two, but cavs probably won’t have leverage sign Mitchell if they lose 2 years in a row to the knicks. Which he could walk, so cavs would have to try to get something for him. But anyways first and foremost we would have to include herro, in any package for those 2 players. I would add dunc too , then I’m pretty sure we would have to give up 2 or 3 firsts, then lastly either add jovic or jaquez to the package, pick your poison. That would be for Mitchell, Murray might come a lil cheaper. After that we should still be under the 2 apron. We already know Riley doesn’t care about draft picks like others gm’s, so I’m sure they can find 2 or 3 first round picks. Also ellisberg will always find a way under the cap.

Last edited 22 days ago by Big_guy305
Bout30man

Thanks but I ask the group, do the numbers work under the apron? And would the players offered in this example be enough from Cleveland’s perspective? And, do we have three firsts? And if only two, would we give them both up and have none?

Last edited 22 days ago by Bout30man
heat for life

pls do not send our best player to phily.

SunManFromDogBone

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Reality Czech

Some people are just that way. I find it a bit bizarre.

ManilaHeat

Hahaha!!

oregoner

lol. yeah this is a funny time to be a Heat fan. On the one hand, this was a dissapointing season, and Jimmy is getting older.

On the other hand, the past five years have seen the Heat make the ECF three teams, win the East twice, and finish with the best record in the Conference once. They were in the NBA Finals ten months ago!

I think it’s fair to say this season was a disappointment but this is still a good team and an excellent franchise. I like the players on this roster, and am grateful for the success, and excited for the future. I think some changes are coming this offseason, but I don’t think they need to blow the whole thing up. And best of all, I trust Riley and Andy and Spo to steer this ship in the right direction, and the Heat to be back in the playoffs next season.

Let’s Go Heat!

Reality Czech

While it was a disappointing season, I understand there were mitigating circumstances that prevented us from doing better. This was the 5th straight year of making the playoffs, which is a positive achievement. The team needs serious help if it hopes to compete for a title. And extension or not, if you keep Butler, he has to commit to taking the regular season seriously. I’d rather go with youth, but if he stays, he needs to do more.

oregoner

I don’t think it’s about commitment. Jimmy Butler is 35+ with years playing for Thibs and Pat Riley. They’re a limit to how much you can expect from him moving forward. If he’s the third best player on this team AND he’s healthy in the playoffs, then he can swing a title. But if he’s your best player next season, then you’re probably a play-in team

SunManFromDogBone

Smart GMs don’t pay their third best players $200M+ for four years. PERIOD!!! If Joe Cronin knows that…so should Pat Riley!

oregoner

Joe Cronin doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the wall. The Blazers will finish last place next season, like they have every season since he took over.

Pat Riley, by contrast, has taken this team to the Finals too many times to count, and that’s just over the past few years, and those weren’t even the best years of his career.

If watching Joe Cronin has taught me anything, it’s that I will never worry about the Heat’s long term prospects as long as Riley and Spo are around. I’m just hoping the Heat are good next season, and if not I’m sure they’ll be good soon.

SunManFromDogBone

I was being feticious. Pat obviously knows more than Cronin. However, even Joe knows when to dump an aging player in order to get maximum return while the “gettin is still good.”

If Riley and Butler agree on an exorbitant extension or agree to wait until after the season starts, all leverage will be lost and the team be get stuck holding the bag. Pat will be faced with the dilemma of either paying Jimmy maximum money or losing him to free agency. Right now Riley is holding all the cards. If he waits, Jimmy will be holding them. Jimmy’s trade value will never be higher than it will be this summer.

SunManFromDogBone

*facetious

Big_guy305

Word is out that that Philly might trade for butler, especially if they can’t get Paul George. I think Philly is desperate enough, especially going out in the 1st round. There missing one piece, and Joel might tell Morey that he miss his buddy Jimmy. They have the cap space to sign him too, but the only thing is do they have enough to offer us, harris value took a major hit, and I don’t think they’re willing to part with Maxey. So we probably gotta do 3 team trade. 3rd team options hawks,cavs,Orlando,okc,knicks,jazz.

oregoner

The problem is that Philly doesn’t have anything of value except draft picks, and we all know that Pat has no interest in draft picks.

I would be happy with a 3-team trade that sends Butler to Philly if the Heat end up with Mitchell or Ingram or the like. I would also be happy with Butler staying in MIA if one of those guys come on board.

Big_guy305

Yes or even if we can’t get Mitchell, then I would be happy with Murray from Atlanta. I would be ok with keeping Jimmy too, as long we get some more talent to surround the team with. One thing for sure is that we gotta trade herro and Duncan away.

SunManFromDogBone

Murray would be great, if we can get him.

oregoner

I like Murray but the he’s not good enough to trade Butler and I don’t know what else the Heat have that would make sense for Atlanta

2qbn

I don’t think we should trade Tyler unless we are getting something. What I think needs to happen with Tyler is to move him back to 6th man.

Reality Czech

SM, BG, O, 2, you are all on the right track with these comments as opposed to other negative, unrealistic comments we’ve seen. These are viable options to improve the team with or without trading Butler. It’s refreshing.

Big_guy305

Of course we gotta get something of good value back for herro, or It would be a waste. But if you put herro back at 6th man, what would be your starting lineup?

2qbn

Because we don’t know what the team will look like next year, I would have played Duncan. He triggers so many actions when in the starting lineup. He had his best season until he got injured in the end. That also would stagger Terry and Herro, which I think needs to happen.

Quayzeze305

I remember 3-4 yrs ago you claimed Herro was untouchable YOU DONT KNOW CALL MY BOY

SunManFromDogBone

Those picks and cap space could turn into quality players and free agents. The picks could be traded to teams looking to rebuild or, if combined with a player, such as Herro, in return for a star (such as Mitchell, if available). The cap space could be used to lure a free agent who can make a difference, such as DeRozan or Siakim.

oregoner

I think the Heat are willing to make a move for “picks and cap space” if the next move is lined up and is happening this offseason. But I can guarantee with a thousand percent certainty they’re not players for picks

Sundayafternoons

I think that’s about Herro then.
Game 2 was a vision of what it’d look like. I wish we got more than just a glimpse.

heat for life

im not happy until i can complain about dunc and ty s d .hey what can i say i watch the good teams play nobody looks or plays like ty or dunc out there.if their d doesnt frustrate you guys then your not fans of the heat.i want the best for the heat.they are not good for my team .getem outta here asap

heat for life

strus is loose

heat for life

i hope bam is watching how aggressive banchero plays

heat for life

poor donovan come play down here

heat for life

orlando tanked now reaping the benefits.do we want to tank partial tank or add around jim

oregoner

lol. You have to renounce your Heat fandom if you’re jealous of the JV team.

The Orlando Magic haven’t won a playoff series since George W. Bush was the president! If they made the finals every year for the rest of the decade, the Heat would still have a better resume. Duncan Robinson has won more playoff games than the Orlando Magic.

They spent two decades in the gutter and finally have a decent team. Congratulations, even a stopped watch is right twice a day. I bet the Heat make one offseason move and kick their butts again next season.

But no, congrats to the Magic for making it deep into the first round of playoffs. Real accomplishment. Congratulations. I’ll be there for the banner hanging ceremony.

Last edited 22 days ago by oregoner
2qbn

Testify!

HHHFAN4Life

Testify huh? You ask anyone with knowledge in the league who has a better future the heat or orl who you think they going with? Testify? This is a what have you done for me lately league and the heat were out in the first round as well you think he preaching when both of y’all sound dumb. Testify? Two decades in the gutter when? They just made the playoffs in the bubble? So when did these decades a happen? There best player rn is better than the heats best player rn lmao, talking about testify lol, if they go to the finals ten straight times and win 4 that’s a better resume than Mia. Y’all just say anything on here I see

Last edited 22 days ago by HHHFAN4Life
Reality Czech

I’m surprised at your response since I felt we were on the same page most of the time. I interpreted their comments as being against tanking and for the Heat way of staying competitive without tanking a la Sixers. I also am against deliberately losing to gain a better draft position.

HHHFAN4Life

I interpreted it as them trying to bash orl who as I mentioned as of right now has the best professional basketball player in the state of Florida. I’m not saying Mia needs to tank but can retool and be right back in this thing next year. But hard decisions will have to be made and they 1000 percent shouldn’t run it back

Reality Czech

I believe most here, including O and 2, agree that we can’t just run it back as you’ve pointed out. It would basically be that definition of insanity – doing the same thing with the same tools and expecting a different result. 😀

Bout30man

Good comments. It’s important to sometimes upset some closely held but occasionally not fully fleshed out positive spins about the Heat that are almost required here by some. One is that when the Heat have a less than successful season, they attempt to lessen the sting (and thus miss the lessons to be learned) by going back in history. Instead they should be focused on looking at the team as it is, and the decisions that were made to get us here now. And what path to take from here. And that is all that is really relevant.

2qbn

Good comments? That dude is doing the HFL routine where we’re supposed to slobber some significantly less successful team because they may have won a single playoff match. In this hilarious case, it’s a team that was bounced in the 1st round. Not only that, but if this team was healthy they would beat the crap out of Orlando and Cleveland. Probably have a great chance to go 7 with Boston. That’s not spin, just facts.

So let’s take a look at that comment that Orlando has the best player in Florida. Last I checked Orlando has had top pick after top pick because they always suck, which isn’t going to happen here. And I don’t just hand out best player awards when you have proved absolutely nothing in the playoffs. When that day comes, then we can say that.

Lastly, let’s take aim at this woe is us. Our future sucks. Oh these guys (like me) who don’t trash the team left and right are dreamers and delusional. Do you all remember when Zack Lowe deemed the Heat as being in the WORST position in the NBA? What did we do? Traded for Butler and went on a great run. This is the NBA where one year to next doesn’t mean jack s**t. Look at Phoenix. Look at the Bucks. So this crowning of the Magic is effing hilarious.

But you guys do you, ya know.

Bout30man

You assume we would beat the crap out of those teams if healthy. It’s an assumption but I can go with you on that. Not sure we could beat Boston, or go seven, even healthy. We lost too many important games down the stretch that we needed, to buy that thought just because someone says it.
What HHHfan says that is right is that this year, the Magic and Heat did the same. They aren’t the JV anymore. And their immediate future, the next two years, may be brighter than ours, unless something big happens for us.

Last edited 22 days ago by Bout30man
2qbn

The not JV team with their future so bright lost in the 1st round like the Heat. Their future, the way the league is designed, should be better considering they have had top pick after top pick. Even The Process eventually made the playoffs but can’t get past the 2nd round. So again, if you two want to say the Magic will definitely better the next two years I kindly say let’s see it. Because like Philly you can get all the top picks but it doesn’t guarantee anything other than not picking in top 5 for a couple years.

I would also add that after today’s presser if you think Riley is just going to run it back then I would listen to it again. This team will be back in the playoffs next year, barring catastrophic injuries.

oregoner

Yeah I stand by everything I said. The Orlando Magic are a JV organization, and they’re so bad that once a decade they’ll luck into a #1 pick and win some games. But they’ll never build sustained success because they’re a Mickey Mouse organization, literally and figuratively. So yeah, congrats to the Magic on being so bad that they have a roster full of lottery picks and a first round exit to brag about. They still stink. The rest of you can all ooh and aah over lottery picks and say that winning doesn’t matter. I’ll take the team with the better coach, better gm, similar talent, and a load of wins to prove how good they are.

2qbn

You were two “testify” short of your word count. Do better.

HHHFAN4Life

Should’ve could’ve would’ve we didn’t and as far as I’m concerned that’s all that matters. Get mad all you want truth is truth just because you don’t like what’s said means it’s not true? Never crowned them anything I said they have the best player in the state not team do better, their future as isn’t a bit brighter than the heat as they are currently constructed?

2qbn

I’ll do better. Both teams got bounced in the 1st round. “as currently constructed” doesn’t mean anything until July-August. The Bucks and Suns won the offseason last summer. In the NBA actual accomplishments matter, not draft pick collecting like the Process.

Wake me when the Magic do something like make an ECF with Florida’s best player.

HHHFAN4Life

Damn jimmy glazer it’s ok. Players get older skills decline. I appreciate everything he’s done but imo I think the heat need to move on, again I and others have floated many good young talents the Mia heat can get for Jimmy maybe even through in Caleb along with him. Does it mean it’s gonna happen no, again our opinion

heat for life

orlandos future banchero suggs wagner , ours bam jjj jovic

Reality Czech

Pick #s 1, 5, and 8, versus pick #s 14, 18, and 27. Even a non research person like you may conclude that gives them just a wee bit of an advantage.

heat for life

to tank or not they did minn okc did

Reality Czech

Just comical, lol!

Reality Czech

Tank, but keep Butler. Yup, got it 😂😂😂😂

ManilaHeat

Yeah its bizarre…tanking takes min 2yrs by then Jimmy is a dinosaur 😂

heat for life

donovans supporting cast not very good

heat for life

wonder what pat offered utah for donovan

heat for life

donovan mitchell scored last 24 pts for cavs

heat for life

bancheros a beast our guy a bum not really but bam hasnt stepped up his offensive game enough.he is who he is .great defender.average rebounder.avg offensive player

SunManFromDogBone

Quit comparing players dude. Bam is what he is. Probably one of the hardest working defenders in the NBA. If he had some help inside and could unleash his full offensive potential, who knows how good he could be. It’s not Bam’s fault that the team has been constructed the way it is. He’s just working his ass off trying to do the best he can. You don’t see him taking “personal days” off or slacking off during games or during the season.

I bet if I gave you $100 you would take it then complain “Why didn’t you give it to me yesterday when I really needed it?”

Bout30man

Quite a wallop for us Heat fans for the season to end but also from Bally’s going bankrupt. Sports fans all over the country are probably finding following their teams a lot less accessible. I hope it gets rectified soon. But, I fear we are going to be paying more and more to follow sports in the future

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heat for life

While Butler declined to speak with the media during Friday’s optional interview session at Kaseya Center, he did meet earlier in the day with Spoelstra and the Heat front office.
That session apparently went well enough for Spoelstra to emerge with optimism about what might come next in the partnership with Butler that has produced three trips to the Eastern Conference finals and two to the NBA Finals.“He’ll be extremely motivated,” Spoelstra said in looking ahead to next season. “You know Jimmy views things like us, also, and doesn’t want to have our season over early in May.
“My expectation is that at this place in his career and his age that he’ll come into training camp in the best shape of his career. I think that’s the goal, particularly when you get to that stage.”

SunManFromDogBone

It’s pretty clear from Spo’s exit interview that he is looking forward to continuing to work with Butler next season. He also made it clear that Herro, Bam, Jaquez and Jovic are part of the future. He has spoken highly of having Rozier on the team in the recent past. Based on his comments, it appears Miami currently intends to keep the team’s nucleus intact and tweak it around the edges next season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdyTQpWwiE

I noticed Jimmy is talking a lot of smack to the media. I guess his ego can’t stand being out of the news during the playoffs.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10119837-video-heats-jimmy-butler-says-celtics-knicks-would-be-home-if-he-wasnt-injured

https://nypost.com/2024/05/04/sports/jimmy-butler-blasts-josh-hart-claims-he-would-beat-knicks-again/

https://athlonsports.com/nba/jimmy-butler-bluntly-names-nba-coach-refuses-play-playoffs-knicks-heat

Regardless what Spo (or Riley) may say or think, I still think it’s time to sell high (both Jimmy and Herro) before their values drop and Miami is stuck having a fire sale and ends up in a long term rebuilding process rather than just a short term re-tooling one.

I’m a little burned out by this long, frustrating season. Maybe Riley and Spo will snap out of their illusion about the success this team can attain by maintaining the status quo…before the June draft. Time will tell.

GO HEAT!!!

Bout30man

Agree on all fronts. Listening to Jimmy used to inspire me. But, now I know the things he says sound better than they often are. I saw one report yesterday where they were speculating that Jimmy is on the block. We won’t know until it happens as Pat does not tip his hand.
I don’t see how you could run this back and just fix around the edges. Seems to me the needs are far greater than that. I guess they will evaluate, see what’s out there, and then decide. There is plenty of time.
Still, it will be much harder for me to get excited about a Heat team with a similar nucleus and anything like the offseason additions they have had over the last 3-4 years. I hope they are more realistic about what this team’s needs are than that.

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SunManFromDogBone

Exactly. Hard to get excited about running it back with Jimmy. That won’t win a ring.

oregoner

Dang. I was traveling for work last week. When I left, the Heat were down 2-1. I’m back, and it looks like they’re ready to blow the whole thing up!

I won’t go into a long rant about this team, I will just say that I think giving Jimmy a max extension would be a mistake. Don’t get me wrong, the last five years have been great, and I think Jimmy is a top-5 Heat player of all time. But watching Steph, LeBron, and Durant all get bounced early, I think the message is clear. This league is moving on to the next generation.

The Heat have a great young core with Bam, Herro, Jovic, and Jamie. I would love to see Jimmy and K-Love back next season, but see no reason to devote a huge part of the salary cap to those guys. Let’s see if they can turn a few draft picks and salaries into Donovan Mitchell or someone like him.

The past five years have been great. But I’m ready to turn the page this offseason.

Bout30man

Me too.

heat for life

u give denver ty and dunc the minutes they got down here they arent winning a chip

Reality Czech

The great Oz has spoken!

heat for life

they both suk u were wrong on both espn.com boy ,watch the good teams any dunc ty no d players left maybe luka but hes prob the best offensive player in nba.watch what the gms think of ty n dunc in off season when riley tries to deal them.for jimmy to get us to 2 finals with these stiffs shows u the type of player he was.

Reality Czech

depressing watching butler and bam
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jim is not a dedicated athlete,commercials are for the off season son
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bam looked ok offensively for a while but lately heck no.not sure what happened.prob watching butler suk doesnt help
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he gives me hope jimmy doesnt
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i think they can beat atl, chi not sure ,phily prob not.i cant believe how washed jimmy is
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every guy should be up for trading everybody theres not one keeper
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a team w/o a superstar will not go very far.jimmys done”

Reality Czech

You can keep your Belgian college degree. I know you have the art of ‘waffling’ down to a science, but I’m not interested in learning it. I like to evaluate people and players the old fashioned way – with adequate sample sizes and facts.
Jaquez is our second best player. Jaquez is a bum. Wow, Jaquez!
Is there anything that Jovic can’t do? He’s not an nba player. He’s a very good defender. Who plays like Jovic?
Precious is a bust. Boy, I sure wish we had Precious.

ManilaHeat

As a “vet rookie” JJJ has gained respect from the league. Still lots of polishing to do but he’s got the goods to be a very good player. May not become an allstar but a good complementary player.

Now that’s done, coz its a Jaquez article lol…let me just say it looks like a brainstorming marketing mtg here. That after the discussions it will be presented to the executive board headed by Riley. Can’t wait to see who’ll be “approved”.

Quayzeze305

Salary cap 141,000,000
Lux tax 171,315,000

Target
Saddiq Bey 25 -ufa 4.55 M
Pat Will 22- rfa 9.8 M
Alex C 30 – 9.8 M
Ayo 24- 9 M
Grant Will 25- 13 M
Doug M 32- ufa 13.75 M
TJ McConnell 32- 9.3 M
Rui 26- 17 M
Gabe 27 – 11 M
Marcus smart 30- 20 M
Yuta Watanabe 29-2.6 M
Naji Marshall 26-UFA 1.9 M
Trey Murphy 23- 5.1 M
Oubre 28 – ufa 2 M
Malik Monk 26 – ufa 9.9 M
Buddy Heild 31- ufa 19.2 M
Immanuel Quickley 24 -ufa 4.1 M

We need more length athleticism. The young bulls will be sacrificed to meet this need . As well as Duncan,Terry,and probably Tyler. .

HHHFAN4Life

Length and athleticism yet wanna keep an aging injury prone half assing part time 35 yo?

Quayzeze305

They’re bringing him back whether you like it or not . They have to get players to alleviate his workload and fit better than what they’ve currently been disrespecting him with the last 4 yrs .

Obtaining more versatile players with height and skill would preserve Jimmy and this offseason is additional rest .

Kick the can for LJ,PG,Harden,KD,Mitchell

If not I can imagine a lineup with

1. Quickley 2. Butler 3. Trey Murphy 4. Hachimura 5. Adebayo

Bench :one of the

1.Gabe/Russ/Tj/Cp3/Smart
2. Heild/Hardaway/Monk
3.Oubre/Grant Williams/Bey
4.Pat Williams or a Kyle Anderson type
5. Love/Bryant/Orlando

This extension for Jimmy only 2 yrs . It’s time to go all in . Sign players to team friendly deals and keep that flexibility for in season moves .

HHHFAN4Life

It’s not about whether I like it or not, they shouldn’t sign him to the contract Jimmy glazer. Rebuild and move on from the PT player…….you want them to give him older more injury probed diminishing skilled PO chokers. Whether I or others that think like me like him getting traded like it or not we’ve seen what these last 2 years look like expect more no matter who you get as long as Jimmy is on this team they gonna coast during the reg season. Sign him and watch is all I will say

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Quayzeze305

You sound more like a Celtics guy than me being any “glazer” dude is a baller yeah he may have lost a step but didn’t LeBron at 35 have the right cast team built around him to get them a chip in ‘20 ?

Not saying he’s LJ but you give Jim a full offseason and Spo actual NBA players and not fringe guys imagine what he could do with High Floor players the likes we haven’t really brought in since Jim got here . Everyone was riding Ty but we all knew he wasn’t the type of player we need .

Pat said best after ‘22 conference finals two way players when championships .

The minuses are

Herro
Duncan
Terry

Committing 75 million to these guys are the bigger concern to me . Jimmys not Superman you killing him out there thinking guys like this are the answer and I like Duncan but no bro that’s not it.

heat for life

any half ass fan can see dunc and ty cant ball ,u cant just look at espn .com and look at their pts .

Reality Czech

And who only looks at one source to get information? How ridiculous.

Reality Czech

Nobody knows for sure what’s about to happen. That extension will have him at $56 million a year when he’s 37-38, and he’s already shown that the regular season isn’t important to him. If he had played to his full potential, we wouldn’t have been in the play-in or the 8th seed. We might still be playing now if we were 4 or 5.
You have some interesting names on your list. But Harden and PG13? Both have accomplished nothing for their teams. And CP3’s best years are becoming a distant memory.
I don’t buy into the disrespect idea at all. Here’s a quote from the SS:
The NBA offseason is a layered process, required to take into account the salary cap, luxury tax, payroll aprons and willingness of potential or perceived trade partners to engage.”
It’s not a simple process. Could they have made some better moves? Maybe. Would it have made a difference? We’ll never know.
Whether they keep Butler or not, I’ll still root for them to do well. I’m of the opinion it’s time to go younger. The executives will decide.

Quayzeze305

It’s not about buying the disrespect everyone that knows ball clearly seen that Herro wasn’t a Luka type of Player . He was coming off the bench behind Nunn in the ‘21 playoffs . They rewarded him with a contract of an elite 2 way player . He’s been exposed even prior to last season he was supposed to be moved even LeBron in his prime wouldn’t have won a chip the last 3 years when he’d be the only 2 way player in the wing completely lunacy .

Also, to your point if these guys aren’t doing anything of substance on there teams why move Jimmy for some guy hoping he can be better than Jimmy ala. Mitchell when he’s smaller injury prone and a weaker defender .

We’d be giving up 140 a game like we were the Pacers or something.

Bout30man

Someone in my family used to live at Quayside.

Reality Czech

Pacers are still playing.
If you are suggesting that, at this point in time, that Butler is a better player than Mitchell, I would totally disagree. 7 years younger. And in the last 5 seasons, Mitchell has averaged 62 games, Butler 58.

Quayzeze305

Look at the yrs before we got D wade Purgatory couldn’t sniff a finals .

Look at the yrs after LJ left Purgatory couldn’t sniff a ECF .

These opportunities don’t come often with special talents .

Those Hassan years were bad . That’s what happens when superstar players leave your team PURGATORY and you have no home grown talent to take their place on the roster . This is why after the final presser Spo gave the verbal clues like were running it back Jimmy’s his stead and we’re going to get it right for him and Bam this is our last shot with those two . You structure it right this time roster construction wise if it doesn’t pan out he comes of the books in two years anyway with a lot cap space and the greatest coach in the game .

HHHFAN4Life

Jimmy is no longer a special talent glazer. There are plenty teams that do have young special talent on their teams that we can trade Jimmy glazer. Teams like okc dal sac no, you wouldn’t know cause your to busy glazing. Terry Duncan and Herro Martin love can join him when he does leave. Jimmy and the team sucked vs top 10 defensive team and he’s gonna be better next year at age 35 whilst coasting next year as well? No matter who you want next to Jimmy and bam the team is not gonna take the reg season seriously cause who’s gonna tell him to take it seriously? Pat? Spo? Andy? You sign him to that big ass contract he’s definitely coasting going to get hurt at some point and the team will follow his lead just you watch

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heat for life

he may not be a ss anymore .but hes still your best player.theres no guarantee your getting back anybody near the talent.if bam is your best player next year god help us

Quayzeze305

No, Herro’s primary cum guzzler .

This isn’t a franchise that rebuilds with young talent Pat has always been a veteran oriented executive that’s not going to change as he turns 80 right or wrong that’s the direction they’re taking . Already got him in house they’re not going to be looking to accommodate another aging player that hasn’t been in the building that may or may not work out .

Bout30man

You are right about purgatory but that ship has unfortunately passed us by. Jimmy can’t carry us anymore. We can only do so much to help him with his salary. We will almost surely approach second apron status where we can’t afford to put on the court an even more talented team than he would have needed this year. His skills are diminishing,,only a little, but his injury proneness has now become alarming. That alone should be a red flag. Purgatory here we come, but if we trade now, our time in hell will be less.

Big_guy305

If possible I would trade Jimmy for ant in a heartbeat, but that ain’t never gonna happen.

oregoner

I’m with you Czech. I’ll root for the Heat no matter what. More than that, I trust Riley to make the right decision. Everyone was mad at him when he didn’t trade the farm for Beal or Lillard last season. I don’t think anyone wants him to make those same trades for those guys this offseason. I don’t know if he’ll give Jimmy an extension or not. But I trust that he won’t give Jimmy a giant contract based on past performance if he thinks that it will hurt the team. He wouldn’t do it for D-Wade in 2016, so he definitely ain’t doing it for Jimmy in 2024

vagibugi

Dallas destroyed both Harden and PG13 couldnt handle DJJ.
I watched Denver-Minnesota game and it seems to me a whole different level of basketball, where all east teams, including Boston, doesn’t have much chance.

Denver, Dallas, Minnesota and Oklahoma all have MVP level players, playing with all star level player in the same team, and all teams have long, strong and skilled role players.

Not just Miami, all east teams doesn’t have that.

The thing is, it is wrong to send your talent out, if you have any, so selling Butler would be a mistake, but extending him would also be a mistake.

I believe, that the best strategy here would be to stay where we are, except maybe to trade Tyler for a similar player, but better two way player.

oregoner

If you trade Butler for literally nothing, your starting five is:

Bam, Jovic, Jamie, Tyler, Rozier. That’s a good young core.

Bring Love, Highsmith, and Duncan off the bench. Those are reliable vets.

That’s an 8-man rotation, plus a mid-first-round pick (where the Heat have a ton of success in the draft). Plus whatever you can trade for Jimmy Butler, or Jimmy as ‘6th man of the year’ next season.

My point is, the Heat have been a top-4 team in the NBA for 3 of the past 5 season. No need to panic. Just rebuild around the margins and go after it again next season.

heat for life

i agree 100% get jimmy some help (ballers) get ty dunc jovic tfoh.naz eid pj wash gafford.mcdaniels.hachimura type dudes .no more 1 wayers riley

Reality Czech

Spobot should play Jovic 35 minutes.
Wow, is there anything Jovic can’t do?
Jovic plays very good defense. Good footwork for a big man.

Jovic is not an NBA player. Needs to go back to Europe.
Get Jovic tfoh.
(disclaimer- not all verbatim, but all accurate)

Consistently inconsistent. Lol.

SunManFromDogBone

In 2023-2024, despite all the injuries, the Heat finished 46-36, a winning percentage of .561. Miami was 13-9 with Jimmy out of the line-up (.591) and 33-27 with him in the line-up (.550). Projected over 82 games, that is 48.5 wins without Jimmy, good enough for 4th place, right behind Milwaukee at 49-33 and New York at 50-32, assuming neither of the two extra wins were against the Bucks or Knicks.

In league-wide standings, Miami without Jimmy, would have finished tied with Cleveland for 4th place in the East, two games behind second place New York and just 3 games behind the NBA’s 5th overall team, the L.A. Clippers, who were 51-31. In other words, Miami has a good core of players without Jimmy. With a couple of shrewd trades, Miami could be better…much better.

Miami needs a Center or, at minimum a solid two-way PF. Bam has difficulties doing all he does by himself, guarding the paint, perimeter, rebounding, scoring, passing, setting screens, etc. If Miami had a C/PF who could help handle the inside duties effectively (rebounding, scoring, guarding the paint, spreading the floor, etc.,) it would free Bam up to be a true force everywhere else. If that C/PF was mobile and could shoot the three ball, even better. Someone like Jaren Jackson Jr. of Memphis. Other possible acceptable alternatives would be Miles Turner, Nikola Vucevic, Wendell Carter, Isaiah Hartenstein or Isaiah Stewart.

Miami needs a reliable SG. Herro is not reliable offensively and is not a two-way player. A player like Dejounte Murray would work very well in the Miami system. Other possible alternatives are Demar DeRozan, Donovan Mitchell, Desmond Bane, C.J. McCallum.

If the SG and PF/C slots are filled by trading Butler and Herro, Jaquez and Jovic could compete for the SF position. If that happened, Miami could be a better overall team and potentially a younger/faster team, without having to go through a rebuilding process.

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