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NBA GAMETHREAD: Utah Jazz (7-25) @ Miami Heat (17-15)

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Injury Report:

Miami Heat:

  • Jimmy Butler (suspension) — OUT
  • Josh Richardson (heel) — OUT
  • Dru Smith (achilles) — OUT
  • Isaiah Stevens (G-League) — OUT

Utah Jazz:

  • John Collins (hip) — AVAILABLE
  • Elijah Harkless (G-League) — OUT
  • Taylor Hendricks (fibula) — OUT
  • Oscar Tshiebwe (G-League) — OUT
  • Cody Williams (G-League) — OUT

Starting 5:

Miami Heat:

  • Tyler Herro, G
  • Terry Rozier, G
  • Nikola Jovic, F
  • Haywood Highsmith, F
  • Bam Adebayo, C

Utah Jazz:

  • Collin Sexton, G
  • Keyonte George, G
  • Lauri Markkanen, F
  • John Collins, F
  • Walker Kessler, C

Broadcast Info:

  • Tipoff: 8:00 PM EST
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  • Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
  • Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)

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heat for life

emilys ewing theory i guess didnt work lol

heat for life

in bams 5 year career how many really good games has he had.cant think of to many 30 pt 10 rebound games.embid joker towns do it just about every night.bam is highly paid not deserving of max $$

oregoner

Bam can anchor a defense, guard all 5 positions, set bone crunching screens, and hit a jum shot if you need one. But he ain’t giving you 30. You can complain about the one thing he can’t do or appreciate all the other things he can do.

heatforlife

agree to a degree.anchor a defense yes.bone crunching screens and illegal screens yes.hit a jump shot any nba player can hit a jumper or they wouldnt be in nba,he does alot of things but for me hes a little above average when u look at the great centers hes not even close to their level.hes overpaid again riley fs up.id want bam on my team but he better not be the 1st or 2nd best player

heat for life

lets take a stab at this what player do u think pat gets.i say bradley beale

Big_guy305

If he does that, he needs to retire asap.

Reality Czech

I 100% disagree with that. No trade clause, aging player with 2+ years remaining.

heat for life

not a good deal rc.hes a good scorer?

Reality Czech

Not a fit and that bad contract

heat for life

big 3 ty ware beale lol

oregoner

I think, worst case scenario, he gets traded for an expiring contract. Maybe Julius Randle and a decent role player.

Best case scenario, Riley gets Van Vleet plus a young guy from Houston (Tari Eason?), or MPJ from the Nuggets. I’d be happy with Norm Powell and Terrance Mann.

Decent return looks something like Brandon Ingram or Wiggins & Kuminga.

SunManFromDogBone

I saw the following trade proposal that makes a little sense.

Bulls get: Michael Porter, Duncan Robinson, Zeke Nnaji
Nuggets get: Jimmy Butler, Torrey Craig
Heat get: Zach LaVine, Nikola Vucevic, Dario Saric

Rozier, Herro, LaVine, Bam, Vucevic
Burks, Jaquez, Jovic, Highsmith, Ware
Richardson, Larsson, Saric, Johnson, Love,

Last edited 1 day ago by SunManFromDogBone
oregoner

I don’t think Riley wants that Zach LaVine contract.

I think if the Nuggets want Butler, you just cut the Bulls out of that trade and get Porter on a smaller version of the Jimmy contract

SunManFromDogBone

I would go for that.

Big_guy305

Jovic is more of a sf, not a good rebounder for his size. I would like spo to try a frontcourt of jovic,bam, ware in the near future.

Reality Czech

We had that exact conversation here yesterday

Reality Czech

A 7’, 6’10”, and 6’9” front line.definitely

Big_guy305

Yes, that would be a good lineup for the modern nba, but idk if spo would do that. I like Highsmith, but I don’t feel like he’s starter material currently because he’s too afraid to take shots.

heat for life

spo will never never do that

heat for life

dunc vs collins ill take collins

Zac

If Jovic had any defensive ability, he’d be a real intriguing piece. His skill offensively is impressive, that said at this point by the time he learns defense (if ever), he’ll be due a contract extension, and either get over paid by Pat or showcase the improvement elsewhere.

heat for life

hes to up and down so far shows glimpses but then shows crapiness

oregoner

he’s young. He’ll develop as he gets older. This is just the realistic problem with building around rookies and draft picks. It takes almost a decade for them to round out their game

Reality Czech

55-24 rebounds

heat for life

35 11 at half no spobot adj

heat for life

dunc closeouts lol might as well just stay where he came from lol

heat for life

even ware is playing bad wtf

Big_guy305

23 percent from 3 is terrible

Bout30man

This is amazing in a negative way. The rebuild can’t start soon enough.

Big_guy305

It sucks but we gotta start somewhere

heat for life

jjj haircut looks better kid

heat for life

stop the game we give up we surrender

heat for life

jjj doesnt get from pt a to pt b very fast.

heat for life

let the athletes play see what we have we know what the other guys can do

heat for life

dunc is such a limited player whos not a sharp shooter .josh christopher in a one on one game would win 21 0

heat for life

d wade must be happy

InsuranceMan

This is pretty terrible don’t think I’ve seen a game this bad since that Feb/Patty Mills intro game vs Thunder

Last edited 1 day ago by InsuranceMan
Big_guy305

Last game was bad too

heat for life

game before that one too

Reality Czech

They won that one

heat for life

guess ware is injured?

Reality Czech

Broken heart

heat for life

bam has 2 diff colored sneakers is that legal

heat for life

i love the heat but its gonna be hard to watch this soon.almost like trying to watch the marlins

Zac

Would be easier to take if I thought they’d have a shot at a legit free agent or draft pick, but Pat’s washed, and so is his team.

Zac

Bam out played by Kessler by a wide margin. Captain Bam may think they’ll be fine with the guys they have, but I think Pat should move him too, run out the season with Ware.

heat for life

guess hes saving ware for next season

Zac

Running it back without any talent maybe wasn’t the wisest decision Pat’s made. Should have traded Jimmy last year. This year, he needs to blow the whole thing up. I know he won’t, but Heat fans are doomed to watch this mediocre-bad team, without the hope of the draft lottery saving us. Without free agency bringing in a talent infusion.

This team is in purgatory.

Big_guy305

Don’t need to blow up the whole team, build around herro, bam, jjj,jovic, and ware. Trade jimmy,terry, and dunc. Try to get that okc Pick back, since we’re fringe play in team now.

Zac

I mean I guess if your excited about being mediocre, sure keep the ‘core’ intact,

Also not sure if you’ve watched Jaime this year, but he’s regressed in nearly every category. Same with Bam (and his giant contract).

This team is missing a superstar, they aren’t a Jimmy Butler away, they are a Giannis or Jokic away. A Edwards away. Pat ain’t got the pull he used to, and those guys aren’t coming.

Last edited 1 day ago by Zac
Big_guy305

It’s an end of Era, I’m not excited about being mediocre, but you already know Riley won’t blow it up. Also I agree that Jaquez has regressed, but most players do in there 2nd year, so gotta give him one more year before deciding to trade him. Also I would like to see a bam and ware front court next season. I’m not expecting us to get a superstar anytime soon, so for now we gotta build through the draft, and continue to get more cap space. It was the same after lbj left, so just rebuild.

Reality Czech

Yes, the only solace would be if we don’t make the playoffs, we keep our first round pick.

Zac

Even if they keep it, the early wins will hurt their lottery chances at a game changer that they desperately need.

Big_guy305

If we keep playing like this we’re def headed that way.

heat for life

thers not a lebron type player that wants to play here?

Zac

Most nba whales want to go to Super Teams, what’s super about this team. They lack talent in the starting line up, the bench is weak too.

Big_guy305

Jimmy’s suspension clearly messing with this team.

heat for life

wares his 3rd best player where is he

heat for life

put keshod ware in hh jovic very limited players

Reality Czech

And try Christopher, nothing to lose like you said.

Big_guy305

Need another starting lineup.

Big_guy305

Sexton doing too much.

Big_guy305

Rebounding is killing us. Just 1 rebound in the last quarter.

heat for life

wonder y utah has such bad record they have some nice pieces

Big_guy305

This team still thinking about Jimmy and its affecting there game.

heat for life

excuses theyre not very good w/o jim but werent that good with him

Big_guy305

It Is what it is, trade Jimmy, and try to get our draft pick back from okc.

heat for life

bam ware bam ware bam ware bam ware bam ware together forever

InsuranceMan

Can’t be worse than that right

heat for life

been a while hows the insurance business?

InsuranceMan

Not too bad, been busy with the gambling business why I haven’t been in game threads. Wanted to see if I had any touch for fantasy picks. So was watching all the games but managing parlays and such. Broke even think I prefer just enjoying the games

Hope you had good holidays

heat for life

36 15 rebounds holy sht

heat for life

rothstein just say it were lacking talent dude ill say it for him

heat for life

sad sad sad jimmys smiling ear to ear

Reality Czech

Yeah, he could’ve helped us with another 9 point 6 shot game.

heat for life

if he cared and tried were a top 6 team /w/o him doubt we make playoffs

Reality Czech

Problem is, he didn’t.

heat for life

yup what happened.your getting paid 50 mil.

heat for life

jovic is like my wife rc hot and cold

Reality Czech

Relationships, like bb, can be challenging

heat for life

yes the current heat team is gonna be very challenging its up to pat to fix it

Reality Czech

Send SunMan in.

heat for life

sunman s excellent prospect he should send the heat all his trade proposals real good stuff from him on this site man does his homework doesnt have time to cruise the seas to busy trying to make team better

heat for life

this kessler is huge ware is kind of huge to

heat for life

man this suks im not happy pat better get an all star type player

heat for life

maybe ware will ask to be traded lol he must be wondering why this coach plays me 4 minutes and then pulls me

heat for life

they got at least 2 7 footers on the ct and we got 6 9 bam oh well

heat for life

sad days when your best player quits on u.hes a douche jimmy but he wants to win

Reality Czech

Despite the record, they have some good players. But we have to do better Butler or no Butler.

heat for life

it is what it is

heat for life

2nd shot fest for the jazz

heat for life

dunc hevkuva swipe away there

heat for life

wonder where yurtseven is prob europe

heat for life

utah has to be the biggest team in nba

Alaska Emily

We’re going to enjoy a little bit of a Ewing effect, as other teams suddenly find their Butler-centric gameplans to be out of date, and don’t know what to do with the young guys getting more minutes. Hope we can take advantage while it lasts.

heat for life

ty and dunc for collins no jjj and dunc for collins?

Reality Czech

Make it so

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