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Injury Report
Miami Heat:
- Isaiah Stevens (g-league) — OUT
- Josh Richardson (heel) — OUT
- Dru Smith (achilles) — OUT
- Tyler Herro (Right Groin; Tightness) — OUT
- Keshad Johnson (Left Shoulder; Inflammation) — OUT
Portland Trail Blazers:
- Kris Murray (chest) — OUT
- Anfernee Simons (elbow) — AVAILABLE
- Robert Williams III (ankle) — AVAILABLE
- Donovan Clingan (ankle) — OUT
- Taze Moore (G League) — OUT
- Rayan Rupert (G League) — OUT
- Matisse Thybulle (ankle) — OUT
Starting 5:
Miami Heat:
- Terry Rozier, G
- Duncan Robinson, G
- Jimmy Butler, F
- Bam Adebayo, F
- Kel’el Ware, C
Portland Trail Blazers:
- Deni Avdija, G
- Scoot Henderson, G
- Anfernee Simons, F
- Jerami Grant, F
- DeAndre Ayton, C
Broadcast Info:
- Tipoff: 7:30 PM EST
- TV: FanDuel Sports Network Sun (Eric Reid & John Crotty)
- Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
- Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)
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Wow. The Heat just got blown out on their home court by a tanking team.
Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Riley. This Butler saga is dragging the whole team down. Trade Jimmy and let’s move on
We may really, finally, be getting closer to the trade after the Suns traded their 2031 first round pick to Utah for 3 lower first round picks. Do it!!
I dunno. I’m sure Riley doesn’t care about those picks. I guess that’s to grease the wheels to get Brad Beal out of town and get someone to the Heat. But who?
I don’t think it’s about the picks. The deal is supposed to be for players plus the picks. It is about clearing cap space to bring somebody in by using the assets that you get in the trade. I anticipate you may get a rotation player or two. Then use a player or players plus picks to hopefully bring in someone you really want (Fox?).
yeah, I’m guessing the Heat are eyeing free agency the offseason after next. I believe Luka is plan-A and Fox is plan-B. Unfortunately, this means a season and a half of medicoricy before the Heat reach their ultimate goal. Similar to the Wade/Jermaine O’Neal years. That gamble paid off, hopefully this one will also
Could be worse, we could be the Sixers. Ten years of tanking leaves them with this crap team they have now, capped out for the next four years. Everyone is asking if Riley has lost it, Daryl Morey has never even made the NBA Finals and he’s capped out with the saddest team in the NBA for three more years!
Come on O, don’t you know they’re still in ‘the process’? It was originally intended to be a 20-25 year plan. 😆😆
lol. The funniest part is that they started the process (i think in 2008?) by breaking up a team that lost in the second round because they wanted to win a championship. They haven’t been past the second round since
That’s exactly what it feels like to me as well – the Jermaine O’Neal years. I think they can still be competitive in the meantime. And watching Ware/Bam, Herro, Duncan, Keshad, Jaquez, Jovic, Pelle, and possibly Christopher and Stevens and others would be fun. In those previous years, Riley stacked the team with a bunch of aging veterans. Not much to enjoy then.
yeah, I hate to use the Blazers as a comparison, but the Blazers have spent four years losing on purpose, and they’re building around Sharpe, Scoot, and Clingan. The Heat have been in the ECF three times and won the East twice, and they’re building around JJJ, Jovic, and Ware. Seems comparable. Plus the Heat have Herro and Bam, while the Blazers have Simons and Ayton. The resumes on those players speak for themselves
So if you’re looking at the Heat without Butler as a pure rebuild, they’re at least as good as a team that spent the entire Butler era losing on purpse, tanking for draft picks, and trading away their best players.
I wonder if Miami can get Fox, Vucevic and Kuzma ($78.3M) for Butler, Rozier and Highsmith, ($78.3M) and three first round draft picks?
Perhaps ultimately. With the players we receive plus those 3 first rounders, maybe. But I think we might have to add in a sweetener/project. Pelle or Keshad?
Kuzma and Vooch contracts both go one season too long. They’re not good enough to stray from the plan. Fox is worth it, unless the Heat really think they can get Luka
Halfway in the season and Heat is 21-21. Just about right? Should we see this half-glass full or not?
Without Butler, half full.
With Butler, half empty.
I know SM doesn’t want Riley to trade for Brown, but Brown is on an expiring contract. If you trade him for Rozier, you get off Rozier’s $26+ million next season.
Does not matter what we fans want or not. Riles wil do whatever he thinks is good for the team. Even if we hate it. But for whatever reason i still trust that old timer
id rather have terry.overall terrys been a far superior player
Terry has an extra year on his contract. Not sayin, just sayin
Yes, that was exactly my point.
beal for butler right fn now.he wants to go there ship him there rc can apron out beales contract
Yo! bro! I keep telling you that the apron does not come into play since that deal can be made straight up. It’s just that they don’t want him, or rather, that they don’t want his contract.
same type contracts rather large would u rather have brown on team or beale.beales got to have some good ball left in him.hed be # 2 option .we dont have a 2nd scorer
Brown and Beal are entirely different issues. Getting Brown would clear salary out after the season, which is what I believe the Heat want to do. Of course, Beal is better than Brown.
game doesnt count we didnt have ty no worries.if we played like crape with ty thats an issue
In the standings it does. And winnable games like this is what bit them for a couple of seasons. A few games made the difference being in the playin
tyler u better be ready for the bucks.this team w/o ty .cant believe im saying that but hes been so dam good this year
Bad loss from a very bad team. Silver lining ain’t gonna cut it for me sorry
no ty manila he matters
Even with this Butler drama Heat should’ve been 2 games up .500
no ty. bam was benched majority of 4th.mediocre team was bad tonight
Team really needs to move on from Butler and end this unfortunate period for the Heat. The sooner the better..
i think that wasnt a factor rc no ty was and jjj jovic dunc are right now. bench players at best.i know beal has big contract but need a scorer like him who can create on his own like ty does or somebody equivalent
Yeah, I’m not blaming Butler for this loss, even though he is just quiet quitting as SM would put it. But his presence is such a negative right now.
agree he needs 0 minutes better for the team
nice try guys effort level 100%.portlands a terrible team though,bad loss thanks bam
aytons an injury waiting to happen
True
curious no bam .effort level just not there
got a chance
New game!
26 down to 9!!
2qbn run inevitable
bam hurt or just benched for poor play
port clunking 3s what a dum team they can beat our guys off the dribble finally sharp penetrates for a 12 footer
duncs effort 100 % every night salute to u son
Get this deficit below 10 by 4 minutes and we’ll win this 😁😁😁😁
if portalnd continues to hoist 3 s got a shot
Almost.
Second game in a row Ware is leading scorer for the Heat. Although that’s not necessarily a good thing tonight. Have to get more from Bam and your starting sf.
Oops, now Duncan.
duncs having nice game hes got 22
bam had 6 last night
just put love in for ware
ware bam ty nice start 4-8 needs upgrade
bam and rob williams same player except bams always healthy
Even in a bad bad game, i’m still enjoying watching Ware develop
its hard to watch rc hes the only silver lining.
where the f is keshod spobot.larssen dunc jjj jovic yeah sure
not sure this is a jim factor we are missing ty. and they got lots of athletes plus ayton grant are back.bam ware our only salvation
Bad first half ending and then a turd. Worst combo
Can’t believe we’re losing big to these losers
Not A Heat Fan sharpening his claws
Getting uglier. Why not trade Jimmy to these tankers?
nobody wants him pats tried every team no takers,cant blame other teams
feed the big man lets see his offensive skills
Blazers now taking advantage of Heat’s disgruntled state…no thanks to Mr. Butler. Still can win this. Go Heat!
ty your not hurt go in locker room lace it up we need this w
get jimmy out of there spobot did pat tell u to play him
what happens if butler gets hurt again its inevitable with him
That is a big concern for me! It would go from little trade value to no value
Watching Butler first several plays. Tough to watch. Really needs to be benched.
dunc complains on very foul so funny
ware bam jim how many better frontlines in nba not to many
havent seen clingon the 7 2 290 lb guy
Out
coaches decision injured or just to big man that guy is huge
surprised big not here for his bahamian brother playing very well
jaime jovic dunc trio not good spobot
bam ware combo needs 30 minutes plus
ayton looked like a #1 pick he outplayed out 2 bigs
hope tys so called injury is just a rest. day
Ugh! Bad second q
what are your thoughts we know that
Jimmy dragging Heat down that quarter
valid point
wares missing bunch shots
3s. Otherwise he’s 4-6 (0-3 3s).
Sir, he doesn’t want your stinking facts!
4 for 9 thats not wareish
Jimmy wants to bitch and moan that the offense is no longer built around him. Our best scorer is out and he’s on pace for 14 points, yet still wants to get paid. lol
I watched him a moment ago. He was on the right side near the three-point line and just stood there.
Yeah he dribbles, passes and stands there. Literally actively tanking games. He’s like a referee on the take right now, straight up. It might be better to just play him like 15 mins, max. I would start playing KJ
Totally agree. At least you know that guy is gonna bust his butt out there.
hes not looking to score anymore hes really just going thru motions doesnt care about us not sure why hes even in there
spobot play bam ware dam it
It seems he is staggering their rest periods. I suspect they will start the second half together and play most of the fourth quarter together.
The quick fouls on Bam didn’t help
bam ware is lethal one not on ct very mediocre rc
#1 pick ayton how could that be
what awareness
with or w/o ty need a w this would be a bad home loss