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Injury Report:
Utah Jazz:
- Keyonte George (ankle) — OUT
- Walker Kessler (shoulder) — OUT
MiamI Heat:
- Vlad Goldin (G-League) — OUT
Starting 5:
Utah Jazz:
- Isaiah Collier, G
- Ace Bailey, G
- Jaren Jackson Jr., F
- Lauri Markkanen, F
- Jusuf Nurkic, C
Miami Heat:
- Davion Mitchell, G
- Simone Fontecchio, G/F
- Andrew Wiggins, F
- Bam Adebayo, F
- Kel’el Ware, C
Broadcast Info:
- Tipoff: 7:30 PM EST
- TV: FanDuel Sports Network Sun (Eric Reid & John Crotty)
- Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
- Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)
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antman 26 straight games 20 pts or more.def of a ss.wonder how many straight games d wade had 20 pts or more.bam adebayo lol.we cant do biz until we get one
This game was an indictment of everything that’s wrong with the Heat. The hype, the false optimism, the delusional positivity, those bubbles were popped. When you think to yourself, hey maybe we are better than we give this team credit for- we’ll lay those thoughts to rest. When you think to yourself that Riley has reasons for the things he does and he’s not just asleep at the wheel, this game says, no, he really is incompetent and needs to go.
No good team loses to a tanker who sits their starters in the fourth. That’s reality. There is no excuse. It should especially be embarrassing to an organization that claims it never tanks. You can’t have it both ways- because if you never tank, is this the best you can do after three years of this?
there are teams in sports that can overcome injuries becuase for a period of time cause of quality depth and in football superior coaching.when your depth is jovic fonzi dru thats a major problem.again it all goes back to pats selection of players as youve pointed out.
Spo is trying to compete with Rozier and Herro out and Jovic useless. Not easy to do. Thank you Pat.
That pretty much says it all. Heat can’t beat a team that intentionally sits its starters because it wants to tank? Even with Utah’s scrubs on the floor, Miami still gets outrebounded by 15? WTF? So much for having an easy schedule.Next up the Pelicans. Even the name is scary.
I think what is tough is buying into the few comments that come from the Heat leadership these days.
You see the team built up so much goodwill over the years that there was a tendency to believe in them when there was that gray area of uncertainty. A lot of us, myself included, for a long time gave Riley the benefit of the doubt. And for maybe the last one or two years, a good argument could be made that even though, in retrospect, he didn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, one could understand that thinking and I myself often thought that I was not having enough faith. And then there are the few good moves that got made over that timeframe that make evaluating Pat’s overall efforts hard to judge fairly.
But, this year I feel like all that broke down and one can only, with any ability to be objective, state that our GM is doing an overall poor job, and has been for at least a few years.
And as we watch this rudderless team going nowhere and having several impediments to even getting out of the box that our GM has cornered us into with some of his bad decisions, it feels like no one is being held accountable and what we hear from his spokespeople (never him as he is a ghost) are only absurd justifications for making the same mistakes again into the future. That part of the whole experience is hard to accept.
Heatforlife said I’m not a fan of the heat and that I never have anything positive to say about the team. I’m a fan but I root for losses for this team because that’s the only way we can really hope for change and hopefully they will burn that bs 10 commandments draconian way of thinking. Mia needs star power and picking 15th and up in these draft classes isn’t helping, can norm and Powell be signed and traded? I want bam to request a trade (won’t ever do it) my dream again he gets traded to the thunder for jwill and they build around him kas and ware whatever you get for herro (2nd round picks maybe a salary dump) jovic can he be sent to the euro league for a player from over there?
4peat playin championship pending
Jwill is a foundation piece of a champion team, still on rookie contract. Its easier to get SGA then him. Or Giannis, or Luka.
Heat have nothing to make OKC trade him for.
Yall have nothing but negative feedback and shooting a conversation down. What do you suggest? Go how they’ve been going. And they aren’t trading sga over jwill that’s dumb talk doncic got trade Trae young etc etc who were foundational pieces. Oh I know what yall solution are playin mediocre wish for the best with the garbage they have or the team now
You can dream or you can be realistic. I have a long list of players which I would like to see in Miami, and there is a much shorter list of good players who can realistically be in Miami.
Garbage players?
There are 4 all stars in the team. Those are not garbage players.
And there are 8 players younger then 25 years. Those players will peak in years to come. They may be garbage now, but some of them wont be garbage in the future.
Then you have Dru, Mitchell, Simone. Those players have something to contribute. And there is Rosier.
I m not unhappy with the quality of the players, but I m unhappy with the way those players are used, and I m not happy about how the team needs were addressed.
This is a team with a lot of good, but not great players. But not a great team.
What players then? Again you talking about being realistic but said okc would trade their franchise player over a foundational piece your not being realistic nothing.
Its not that I m shooting something down. I prefer to talk about realistic things, thats all.
What realistic moves can Mia make that gives them a young up and coming star besides what I said or tanking. Oh lemme guess Antman Giannis, sga (your words) Luka Zion Donovan Mitchell for the 3rd time is coming lmao. Any name besides them and Mia is in the playin again
The most realistic is Giannis, which will be available again in the summer. Jokic can be available too pretty soon. Mitchell also, if Cleveland fails. Kawhi too. Then comes the likes of SGA and Luka, still young players, but with big contract, which might be available when will be around 30 or 32.
And after that comes young good players, like Wiliams, Wemby, Cunningham, Edwards.
You will noticed, that older players comes first. Miami needs to hunt anybody from that list above, if there is at least small chance, to get them.
Lmao but mines is unrealistic
Giannis what is Mia gonna offer that they couldn’t and didn’t offer over the trade deadline? Everyone else is a pipe dream Jokic pipe dream Mitchell wants to go to ny sga again not going anywhere neither is Edwards Cunningham damn sure not wemby again my 1 player is unrealistic what about yours
Almost all players change teams during their career, even superstars.
Watching the Heat play these days is getting pretty disgusting. I like most of the players, but I do not like the direction the organization is going.
This one is on Riley. The Heat were killed on the boards 58-43, despite the fact Utah’s best rebounder (Walter Kesler 10.8 rpg) was out injured and Nurkic (10.3 rpg), Markkanen and Jackson were kept on the bench the entire 4th quarter so Utah could intentionally tank. They gave the game to Miami on a silver platter.
Knowing the team has been short at least one quality frontcourt player all season, Riley did absolutely nothing before the trade deadline to rectify the situation. He’s been asleep at the wheel for a while now and it is hurting the team. I’m sure he’s instructed Spo to play Jovic in order to save face save face and to justify his decision to give him that $62.4M contract which Jovic neither earned nor deserved.
The front office assumes fans will keep supporting the team, no matter what. They may be right about most fans, but not all. Btw, when was Bam appointed Point Center? I must have missed that announcement.
So true. He couldn’t even get a backup big. There is no excuse.
This team needs an alpha leader and an enforcer. As a whole, this team isn’t tough enough. Bigger, more physical teams man handle our guys.
not to get a backup big is totally unacceptable,not getting a ss is understandable.but when your bf owns the team pat is under no pressure.and this film boy has a 7ft russian on the bench whos fairly mobile strong as an ox never uses him.when oh well your step dads your boss your under no pressure.nepotism clearly another major problem.but again pat made us relevant so cant rip him to bad body of work speaks for itself.film boy can be ripped cause he keeps on playing jovic dru and fonzarelli.how bout vlad keshad gardner film boy u stubborn sob
Shameful lose to a actively tanking team. I met one of the commentators for the jazz team… you know it’s bad when he told me he wanted his jazz to lose and seemed disappointed that heat lost. We need to do a stealth tank.
Really ugly
Looking at the schedule it is pretty easy for the next fifteen games but the last ten are against mostly good teams., I predict the Heat will win about fourteen of their last 25, end up four over, 43-39., unless Philly rests its players at the end and then we go 45-37, which is right about what we predicted. Whatever, we appear to be headed for the play in again.
If you lower your expectations, you limit your disappointment. Don’t expect anything more than continued mediocrity and another birth in the play-in round this year. Nothing more.
powell and herro need to get back even with tys sht d hed be a help
bros jump higher than us rc.they run faster rc.pat likes vanilla ice cream.he needs to change his diet lol.
You know my belief, of twelve kinds of ice cream, no more than four should be vanilla, unless you have a superstar. And, to generalize, it’s for the reasons you say.
rc my friend and foe on here doesnt see it,i think hes a football fan to.more evident in football.how many vanillas on seattles d
Stop trying to convince yourself and others that you know everything about everything. You don’t . And if you can’t see that Kas is a pretty decent defender already, not great, but decent, and you don’t accept my opinion, or big guy’s, or bout30’s, or Eric Reid’s, or many others, try looking in the mirror
dude i trust my judgement nobody gonna change my mind u understand they were hunting him out ron rothstein said that hes not as bad as unc or ty but hes below average easily i need to see him stay in front of bros like dav wiggy bam do almost all the time.if he can shoot like this he will play if he cant he shouldnt play.i hope he keeps this shooting up the end goal is for heat wins.defense wins champ look at seattle and okc.kas is a liability on d but if he can shoot over 40% on 3s he should play cause his d is not uncanish.or herroish hes in the fonzi category a step above the previous 2.u dont seem to value defense to much it doesnt show up on the box scores on espn.com
Players should be judged by the quality of their game not the color of their skin.
i think kas gonna have problem withquick pgs.he looks like a 2g-sf.hes feisty hits the offensive boards looks like a good shooter decent handle little loose with his passing at times has lots of good qualities,i see him as a 2g though,im rooting for the kid.time will tell .
competitive game e reid always great crutty not.rc and i bickering on posts ,great 3 hrs entertainment.wife upstairs watching telemundo .see u wednesday rc
kas is gonna have problems guarding athletes .if he shoots like this he’ll have a spot in the rotation
Not much you can say. We had our best player out but so did they. We had three starters in down the stretch, I think they had one.
best player lauri george having great year no doubt and with jj jr thats a nice 3some
Maybe Lauri is their best, but like Bam and Norm, it’s close. There was no excuse. Their mostly second teamers beat our mostly first team. And Bam and Andrew played great in the 4th, but no one else did. Jaime was particularly off. And, like you pointed out during the game, Rothstein showed after the game on film how they targeted Kaspar.
to much garbage on team jovic fonzi drew all unplayable deserve to lose when dumbot plays those losers
Embarrassing loss to a team that tried to lose.
I’m good with it need these losses so they can move up in the draft 11th and then maybe silvers ugly bald alien looking ass can swing ping pongs Mia’s way
Yes, there are so many tankers on the Heat’s schedule that the Heat can try to hype the illusion that they are competitive. But, we just lost to a tanker and the reality is we would be smarter to get the better draft pick than get drummed out in the play in or first round. I’m not getting fooled again.
a who fan wont get fooled again
Embarrassing
Time for ownership to do something. Changes in the front office or coaching are beyond due.
Pat retires spo moves into his position or trade spo for picks
when u give mins to fonzi dru jovic ware fouls out norm herro pelle out .its def not surprising
Need Havlicek in to steal the ball.
when u in boston at that time or a kid in miami beach?
Only needed a 2
kevin love sighting
Still have a chance.
offensive foul there jeez how can they miss that
sensaballer .kas on bros gonna be an issue
He just had good d on da bro, bro
guy jumped right over him had a good look,he got torched alot rc just telling it like it is.bros play at a diff athletic level dont be so naive
jackos a board crasher
lady ref bad call there
jj jr markanen the best forward duo in nba.use to be tatum brown cant think of better duo.
sensabaugh good looking player built very thick
utah wants to lose game thats so wrong
It leaves a bad taste. It makes winning feel not as good.
ive never seen this in sports fkn martian looking commish gotta do something
jjj jr worn down that style of play not sustainable
He has sustained it for 2/3 of the season.
last few games unlike jjj games.
Had an excellent game against Atlanta, good games against Chicago and Boston
ive been watching heat from its inception its hard to find a worse player than jokic
Then you’re not looking hard enough. We’ve had some bad players.
allen ogg hardly played i should say guys that get minutes
alec kessler?better than niko
utah doesnt play there best players in 4th thats terrible
Amazing that Silver will allow Utah to get away with sitting out players to deliberately lose, but won’t give the Heat some relief from the Rozier situation.
is wade still part owner of jazz wonder if hes at game cheering on his jazz
This is a decent game but we will pull away in the fourth.,This is when the Jazz tank.
your fav player coming up big
how dare that ball pop out like that e reid da best
dru smith over gardner smh
bailey prob the son of thurl looks like him
wow no gardner no kas fn dumbot at his best
w/o your best player norm bam knows he needs to pick up his game and he often lays an egg when we need him the most
wheres kas dumbot guy couldnt miss
fonzi jovic nba depression thanks dumbot
jjj mucho silencio
Powell and Pelle are both important, but we can’t lose to a team that’s trying to tank.
jjjr markanen bailey collier nurkic thats nota bad 5.jj jr is very similar to bam in ability.great addition by them
Totally agree. Very good player
nurkic makes bam look like a baby
niko niko niko is this reality i might do a manila wake me up when niko is sent to gleague
this heat team on the ct led by niko and fonzi has led me to manic depression
Helter Skelter
lets go niko lets go niko purple haze all in my brain
just start kas for arthur fonzarelli lets have some happy days here
At this point I’d start Gardner and bring Kas in as backup pg.
kas should start over fonzi.gardner has a good motor dont think his offense at least what ive seen is nba level
crutty was saying kas was not known for his shooting lol.whats he on some purple haze
jimi hendrix started out as fav guitarist.then went to jimmy page then eddie van halen.my 3 favs
jovic dru fonzi should never never never play.sound like a broken hendrix record
u mean to tell me rc pat couldnt have found a 7ft guy just from a size point of view thats unreal
this is a game that vlad would def help
jjjr george markanen and handful of bigs next year they might be a playin team
dont see walker kessler hes there starter seems like half the team is around 7 ft tall.u know thats not a miami heat type team