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Injury Report:
Boston Celtics:
- Sam Hauser (ankle) — AVAILABLEÂ
- Josh Minott (back) — AVAILABLE
- Jayson Tatum (Achilles repair) — OUT
- Ron Harper Jr (g-league) — OUT
- Max Shulga (g-league) — OUT
- Amari Williams (g-league) — OUT
Miami Heat:
- Tyler Herro (toe) — OUT
- Andrew Wiggins (lower back pain) — OUT
- Pelle Larsson (ankle) — OUT
- Nikola Jovic (elbow) — OUT
- Norman Powell (calf) — AVAILABLE
- Terry Rozier (not with team) — OUT
- Jahmir Young (G-League) — OUT
Starting 5:
Boston Celtics:
- Payton Pritchard, G
- Derrick White, G
- Jaylen Brown, G/F
- Jordan Walsh, F
- Neemias Queta, C
Miami Heat:
- Davion Mitchell, G
- Norman Powell, G
- Jaime Jaquez Jr., F
- Bam Adebayo, F/C
- Kel’el Ware, F/C
Broadcast Info:
- Tipoff: 7:00 PM EST
- TV: FanDuel Sports Network Sun (Eric Reid & John Crotty)
- Radio: AM 560 Sports WQAM & The HEAT Radio Network (Jason Jackson)
- Spanish Radio: WAQI 710 AM & The HEAT Spanish Radio Network (José Pañeda)
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herro has been traded for ja morant or was that just a dream i had
Jaquez goes 5-15, BLAME HERRO. Powell goes 7-21, BLAME HERRO. Kas goes 5-13, BLAME HERRO. Simone goes 4-13, BLAME HERRO. Dru goes 2-10, BLAME HERRO.
Let me give a reality check based on facts. The Heat have leveled off for these reasons:
Opposition started playing zone to slow down our pace.
Teams adjusted their defense against Jaquez.
Powell came down to earth. He was ss level early on.
Simone started the season on fire from distance. He has shot 31% in his last 10 games.
The team, lacking a legitimate backup center, has to stagger Bam and Ware for much of a game, taking away from their efficiency when together.
Everybody was giddy when the team was 11-4 and 14-7 (3-3 with Herro). The race bs subsided because we were doing so well. There was much praise in that period for what Riley had accomplished. Hfl changed his prediction from 41-41 to 50+ wins. My prediction before the season was 45-37. I am sticking with that and will not get irrationally high when they’re winning or irrationally low when they’re not. So far, the season is going as expected. I am looking forward to trades that will bolster the weakest areas.
roles and minute distrib changed.no need to add him in until a slump.ok he enters slump begins.not sure how much ty effected the chemistry and offensive flow but its gotta be something rc
No doubt pace slowed down in the games he played, particularly the first few. But what prevented the team from going back to how they were once he had the toe sprain or bruise? I think the factors I mentioned above had the most to do with it. I think even Eric mentioned the Dolphins Wildcat formation that threw other teams off until they adjusted. And the Heat zone defense at first had other teams stifled. And remember Jeremy was Linsanity until he wasn’t. Now the situation is the Heat must adjust and a trade(s) is needed. I agree with you and SM that I don’t want to see Ware traded. He has all star talent.
For 36 minutes, that was great game. Its clear, why KJ was picked at the draft. If everything goes right, we have our point guard of the future.
Gardner was a bit of revelation too.
Bam had the worst game in a while. Not just an offensive one, he stinks in defense too.
Ware was good offensively, but he is not made to play against Boston. Chasing small guards around the perimeter is not his thing.
heatforlife
1 month ago
Reply to SunManFromDogBone
team oriented unselfish def but u know who will be back soon that narrative will change unless herro changes his game which is hard to do for a player.
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to heatforlife
I don’t think Herro is a selfish player. I also believe his style of play fits with what they are doing. Now, as for his defense………
the playin bros bam and ty need to be traded ware norm better.trade wiggy also.change this medicority jimmy cant bail the playin bros out
powell bam ware are 3 all star type players.wiggy jaime level below.dav dru dawgs but average.need backup center and dynamic pg dru and dav are both backups
bad loss to a mediocre team
The Heat are a mediocre team
before tyler we werent
No sir, your bias is showing . Tyler hasn’t played 22 of the 28 games. Team was 3-3 with him, 12-10 without him. Find somebody else to blame.
when he came back is when the tide turned sir
Utterly ridiculous! He hasn’t played 22 of the 28 games! Blame him for the 3-3 record when he played, but not the others. Might as well blame you for the 12-10 record even though you weren’t there. Neither was he. Come back to reality dude.
i see it differently.its a combo of him returning and certain players coming back to reality.if udont think his no d doesnt hurt team and his one on one idealogy hurts the team .he impacts losing way more than winning
He could only impact 6 games, 6 GAMES! NO PLAYER CAN BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY LOSSES IF THEY ARE NOT ON THE COURT!! There is no seeing it differently. You want to blame Herro for a slower pace in the 6 games he was out there, fine. But it is insane to blame any player when they are not there.
ball doesnt move with him.he likes to create which is ok if your ant steph sga.hes tyler fn herro
It especially doesn’t move with him when he’s not playing.
how good did we look pre tyler rc.i was shocked at the rate we were scoring.there was zero reason to install tyler in.its not like were ptting steph curry back in.gimme a break trade him or sit him teams better offremember milw playoffs when he got hurt as usual we took off like a rocket
Three years of mediocrity and counting. I know who to blame. The hit or miss guy at the top who doesn’t know how to build a team anymore, that’s where I’d start. I’m going to say it, no I won’t. I can’t take the umbrage tonight. But, I’m close to saying it. I’ll just say he has a predilection for certain types and that is destroying the team. What the hell, here goes- #heattoowhite!
As terrible as that sounds, it’s the gosh darn truth. Pat needs to go back to his old Kentucky home. Don’t tell me anymore it’s a coincidence. Don’t tell me anymore that he just picked the best player. It is by design, has to be just by statistical analysis of all the players available and the ones we’ve chosen. Why?- that I can’t say. But he ruined the Heat and if no one else has the guts to say it, I will have to.
You’ve gone off the rails with this conspiracy theory brother.
Maybe, but it’s been going on for a long time. Check our rosters over the last few years. Check the demographics of the vast numbers of players coming out of college or the players available to acquire. The statistics would correlate with my so called conspiracy theory. One or two years maybe it would be aberration, but the numbers keep accumulating. Riley likes to give white guys a shot.
your 100% correct
50%
80 bam ware others pretty much vanilla unheard of in nba in this era.check other teams drafts last 5-7 years were no 1 in vanillas
how good was jimmy to take playin bros(BAM TY) to the finals think about what quitter did what a playoff freak.to take such a mediocre roster that far wow hats off quitter but fu for the way it ended jimmy u suk btwyes 30 the team is way too white even with ty pelle jovic out lots of 3 white guys out there and thats on dumbot hes just a riley puppet anyway who was gifted the goat a top 15 player all time and prob top 50 player and one of the best playoff performers of all time,
Yup, just like other coaches needed stars to win it all in 90% of the cases. On rare occasions, you have the 69 Mets (though they had great pitching) or the miracle on ice.
shulas 70s.no names,spo doesnt matter u could have coached big 3 guarantee u win 2 rings rc
50 years ago! Shows you how rare that is. And I wouldn’t call Csonka and much of that team mediocre. Csonka was a star in those years and one of the reasons they won.
he was so was griese warfield 90% of team was low picks or cast offs therefore the no name defense was born
Absolutely not true. Just an excuse to diminish what he’s accomplished. LeBron won 2 in 4 years here and 2 in the next 10 years.
his accomplishemnts are hof if u were the coach i believe there would be a hof for u to.hes a fortunate guy right place right time credit pat
kerr took over for marc jackson and immediately produce a chip another instance rc,andy reid took kc to champ,schottenheimer couldnt do it.
Jimmy carried us more on his back than any player in recent memory. The results since he left are in correlation with that. In fact, he would have had a better chance with the team we have now over the ones Jimmy had.
And, now that I’m getting thicker skin and am feeling more free to say things the people here don’t like to hear, maybe he lost his joy because of seeing the things you and I are discussing. And maybe he felt the urgency to win now as his own game eroded due to father time. Some of the crappy players he had for support were ridiculous. Check out our rosters, particularly our bigs, and some of our guards. Be sure to go back five years. In retrospect, Jimmys brilliance becomes ever more apparent.
Now, having said all that, I do want to clarify that I felt Jimmy was more and more losing a step over his last two years, and was clearly not worth his extension, and I’m glad he’s gone.
He didn’t seem like he would have lost his joy if they had given him the extension. It was about the money and being called out for not showing up for work.
Some truth to that comment too.
50% right
its scary how much u and i think alike.r u sure your not hfl jr
We did have the same phys ed coach in middle school. But, we sometimes disagree too, not often though.
koochalakos did u go to beach?
skip bertman .mr lichter
man is as strong as they come
goldin here u go rc
bam dum
20 more fg attempts how are we losing by 15 that hard to believe
Ran out of steam
Shame to waste the Ware effort. Kas too. But Powell, Bam, Simone, Dru having an awful shooting game.
jjj was off 2
powell quit chucking 3sjeez
wow bam walked there
look at our best player wow
kelel curry unreal
Wheels falling off
bad night for the local teams
make or miss league oh well its there night
bam ware
gardner fonz dru out there nice job eric
jo jo white killing us
okl 17 bama 0 wow
hey kelel how does the bench feel dont worry we got the fonz
knicks on sunday need this one bost has a ss a very good 2 wayer and not much else should be a w
powells lack of explosion little bit of an issue when u watch brown attack thats at another level
we need a jalen brown type player might be kelel but he doesnt play enough
I wonder if the team looks different without Ware? Asking for a friend.
spo seems not to know lol
d white certified heat killer
teams diff w/o ware
keshot on brown spobot never think of that
team w/o ware looks diff
do we see bam ware rest of game sposuks
Is it premature to say that Herro and his contract is made more expendable by Kaspar looking like he belongs? Maybe, but it could become so.
Not just that, but with Mitchell and Dru at pg, Kas can play 1 or 2.
Missing 22 out of 27 makes his value that much worse
he scores 20 lets in 30
Yeah, you changed your narrative on that. It’s not true.
hes hurt all the time playoff time .they cant trade him fast enough
Powell off night?
Yes
its become the norm
But still impactful
norm goes to the hoop never gives it up
boston gets tatum back next year theyll be fav in east
drus a better defender than davion ?
Equal
spobot will go away from bam ware rest of night
kelel curry or kelel wembyama he fits the bill
d white such a good 2 way player believe he was traded for josh richardson straight up
backup center needed to give bam ware lots minutos together .how bout herro for nurkic.now we got jako who can guard better than herro.as long as u can defend u got a shot.herro is expendable
edey or ware lol pat got that right
No doubt
We are seeing the future of this team. Kas to Ware.
Ages 19 and 21
kas looks like a keeper
jjj great d yes
Ware the three point menace!
wheres the cats offense
How many 3s already for Ware?
not enough more needed maybe 4
bam brainfart
garnder was impressive to