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Heat cap off trade deadline with nightmare scenario

Miami Heat Trade Deadline
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Pencils down! The 2025-26 NBA Trade Deadline has officially passed.

And, once again, the Miami Heat did nothing.

Since there’s not much left to talk about regarding their deadline activity, let’s evaluate what they did — or didn’t do — at the deadline.

Heat receive an F+ grade at trade deadline:

The “+” is the fact that the Milwaukee Bucks simply told them, “No.” The Heat put everything on the table that the Bucks asked for, according to The MiamI Herald’s Barry Jackson. But the Bucks just told them no, kicking the can down the road. I can’t necessarily fault them for that.

But the F is for the failure to prepare for this scenario.

The F is for the failure to pick a direction. Either s–t or get off the pot. Either buy or sell.

The F is for the failure to be willing to move away from mediocrity, which has been the status quo for nearly a half decade.

The F is for the failure to accumulate assets for your vets, especially when multiple of them are either expiring or in the penultimate year of their contract.

The F is for the failure to make the necessary steps in order to be competitive.

The F is for the failure to have self awareness, recognizing that this team is nowhere near where the standard is ordinarily set.

The F is for the failure to show any indication of forward-thinking ability about what’s next.

The F is the failure to be proactive.

I could go on, but it’s hard not to feel deFlated, if you’re not a Heat fan. The Heat are 27-25, stuck in the middle, the hardest place to build any sort of contender. You can’t build from the middle.

Yet, that appears to be unrecognizable for the Heat, who are blinded by their own hubris. Andy Elisburg and Adam Simon are two of the best at what they do. But Miami appears stuck running in a hamster wheel — one that they can’t seem to move off of.

What can they sell to the fanbase? What can they sell to the public? They were the only team in the East to not make a deal, the third time over the last five years they had a chance to pick a direction at the deadline. And they didn’t.

There needs to be a philosophical change. Point blank. End of story.

Because if you don’t adapt, you’ll die.

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oregoner
oregoner
2 months ago

Any truth to the rumor that they’re changing the team name to Miami Lukewarm?

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  oregoner

The other finalist is the Miami Tepid.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  oregoner

The we have enough joes

Iknowtoomuch
Iknowtoomuch
2 months ago

The Heat were the only last partner left on the dance floor…but the beautiful woman found the side exit and got the hell out !

ManilaHeat
ManilaHeat
2 months ago

Don’t look now but the team that scammed us is on an 8 game win streak. And is 13-5 in last 18 games with wins vs okc, lakers, denv, magic, sixers, spurs and rockets.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

Don’t be too loud round here talking about a team like cha, some here like to down them and say we can be cha or wash teams with talented players not winning. They bring up past success to current situation like that matters

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

Don’t look back. They (Atlanta, Charlotte and Washington) might be gaining on us.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago

See what I mean Manila met you with sarcasm and no real logic. Those teams as currently stands have better talent and future than Mia

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago

Yup. They’ve made good lottery picks and trades.

Iknowtoomuch
Iknowtoomuch
2 months ago

Riley may want to trademark it like he did 3 Peat !

Iknowtoomuch
Iknowtoomuch
2 months ago

ManilaHeat’s Heat fandom cycle was hilarious! That’s a keeper!

ManilaHeat
ManilaHeat
2 months ago
Reply to  Iknowtoomuch

ctto whoever he is

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

For me,,all the battles about personnel are over. I’ve said what I think and it’s useless to howl at the moon. I am just going to watch, cheer our players on, even the ones who I wish we upgraded on. After all is said and done, I’m still a fan and we aren’t a bad team, just an average one, and we do have several good players.

My only hope is that our GM loses his job. I think he has not done well overall, and the results point to the fact that Riley has done about medium for at least three years (mostly because he had Butler). I think our team would have a better chance without him. In fact, I think most of us here would do better than him. I wish there was a way, in my fantasies, that I could have his job and not get paid unless I improved this team. I am quite certain I would improve us in one year. But, I’m sure a lot of people feel that way.

But, alas, there is nothing we say here that means anything. We are powerless and can only sit and watch. What I will do, is when people on this thread point to one or two good moves he has made or point to things that happened years ago, I will gently remind them that they are out numbered in that opinion by probably 95%, including all the local experts. And when the opinions are that strongly on one side of an issue, the other side is almost always wrong.

But, then again, what we say here has no impact, so even the Riley apologists are free to have their own opinions and I will respect them. All the battles are over and there is no sense in getting worked up over anything anymore. This is our Heat community, and I cherish you guys, everyone of you who posts here, and the writers. It’s been an emotional few days that we’ve gone thru, and that’s because we all care and want to win. We share in that.

Last edited 2 months ago by Bout30man
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Excellent summary 30. I feel you speak for many of us. We wouldn’t be so vocal if we didn’t care. You are right about wanting the players to excel and the team to win.

It’s very frustrating to sit idly by and see things done we don’t agree with. It is especially frustrating to watch management NOT DO ANYTHING to improve the team when all our competitors are making moves.

Again, you are right when you say there isn’t much we can do about it. I’ll still cheer for the guys to do well and to win. I’ll just make an effort to detach myself a little emotionally in the future. It’s not worth the aggravation.

Onward and upward! Keep posting guys.

Go Heat!

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

Yes Sun, thanks for your words of wisdom. It’s not a bad idea for us all to detach a little.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Amen!

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago

pat needs to come out today and tell us why every team in east made a move except the heat.hes getting roasted on the internet not one good thing is being said about him and the heat.an explanation is needed to calm heat nation down.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

He doesn’t need to do jack. He’s immune from accountability. This year’s lack of activity before the trade deadline is all the evidence you need.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago

It’s early, but I would be okay if they signed Marvin Bagley and Myron Gardner to regular contracts

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

m@m will help.niko must be sent down to the minors or void fkn contract due to lack of performance

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

Doesn’t work like that

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Yup. He’s hit the lottery, even if he sits at the end of the bench and does nothing for the next four years.

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago

the bam ware failure has set this season into mediocrity if those two would have clicked we’d be up there with det nyk.ware by now should be a 20 12 guy in his sleep didnt happen .dumbot has destroyed ware so send him to another team and watch him blossom into an all star

Big_guy305
Big_guy305
2 months ago

Can’t believe I hyped myself up for this disaster class. Pat Riley has been disappointing, I’ve been a supporter of him, but not anymore, he has clearly lost a step. Always with the same whale hunting or bust. Then wait for a big star in free agency, but that rarely happens anymore. I feel like a kid on Christmas hoping to get a good gift, but instead getting a stocking with a lump of coal.

oregoner
oregoner
2 months ago
Reply to  Big_guy305

I still don’t understand why Kevin Durant isn’t on this team

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  oregoner

That’s easy to explain. Riley didn’t want to let go of Miami’s two most valuable assets, Herro and Jovic.

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago
Reply to  Big_guy305

And they are talking about doing the same thing again in the offseason. It’s the definition of insanity.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Got that right. Maybe we are the crazy ones for believing his b.s.

TheBigRagu
TheBigRagu
2 months ago

Put Riley out to pasture. Fire his lackey Elisburg too.

ManilaHeat
ManilaHeat
2 months ago

Funny and sad 😆😂😜😔😥😭

Heat fandom cycle…

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Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

Hysterical

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

You forget the Mia can beat any team at the top of the east and don’t no team wanna face them in the playoffs and so and so better watch out, and Mia is a first round sleeper team etc etc etc blah blah blah bs bs bs

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

The rhetoric loses its desired effect after you hear it enough times.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago

This pretty much sums up the feelings of many Heat fans. “Proactive” and “contingency plan” are apparently not part of Riley’s vocabulary. He needs to go!
Heat, Rockets and Spurs were the only NBA teams not to make a trade.

Please take a few minutes to listen to these comments. They make a lot of sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufx48XjKcWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8VGwDbQGXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4FeFnwc4oE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI2-_ZbiXUA

Last edited 2 months ago by SunManFromDogBone
heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago

quit playing niko and kaspars obviously not ready thats 5 extra points.dum ass coach

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

I would disagree. If you’re not making moves then play younger guys when you can. Try and build up some value for the offseason while balancing wins. A good run of one or more of those guys over 30 games is enough of a sample size to make potential trade teams reconsider their opinion on any of them.

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

nikos played 3 1/2 seasons what have u seen that u think he can even be a rotational player.guy has been bad in at least 8 of 10 games.give some other younbloods a try gardner keshad .he hurts way more than helps 2qbn.

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

He played 15 games and averaged 13 mins in his first season. Last year he was up to 10 pts per at 25 mins. He played well for Serbia over the summer and it didn’t translate in to this season, but you also gave up on JJJ and now you have his poster on your wall.

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

jjj was great when he arrived slacked off seemed to eat to much mexican food while in mexico.got it out of his system now balling out.ive never seen shnozzy put 2 good games back to back.hes 1st team all star east of the ocean .your mip prediction which i bet not looking to good

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

Not true about any trip to Mexico. If he did he would have been on that guac since year 2 and he would be 1st team All NBA this season. 😛

JJJ didn’t put anything together last year. Wild passes. Spin moves to nowhere. Clanking 3’s. It happens to guys.

Regarding your two two good games in a row claim, I had to go check. Interesting exercise. Going only off points as there were other counting stats, but last season there was a 6 game stretch end of January into Feb where he went 17-15-11-14-20-23. Prior to that he had a 5 game stretch of 17-12-20-11-21. Those stretches, combined with his Serbian play, is why he seemed to be trending in the right direction. That player is still in there, and like JJJ, we should probably wait a slight bit before we bury his career

Last edited 2 months ago by 2qbn
Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

I agree. I understand that he has had 3 1/2 years to figure things out and he really hasn’t done so thus far. This season he’s been generally awful, including some three-point air balls. But we need to hope for the best because the fact is, he is not going anywhere since he is under contract for the next few years. I don’t know what he will become. I only know he has to get better and has to wake up and realize he has good size and some decent skills

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

I think that big fat contract extension Riley gave Jovic prior to the season went to his head. After starting several games last year, the experience he acquired playing alongside Jokic on the Serbian National Team and the 4 year/$62.4M contract extension gifted to him by Riley, Jovic came into camp with a different attitude. I sensed a bit of arrogance and entitlement. It seemed as though he felt he had arrived and was guaranteed a starting position and more minutes, He started off on the wrong foot in the preseason and has never recovered.

Now, it seems as though the pressure of being expected to perform at a higher level has gotten to Jovic. The more he tries to impress the more he screws up. The more he screws up, the more disillusioned he becomes. He has no clue what kind of player he is. He’s stuck between being the point forward he visualizes himself to be and the PF the team needs him to be. Even though he is currently unplayable, Spo is being forced to play him in order to justify his new contract.

As I’ve suggested many times before, Jovic needs to be sent to Sioux Falls for regular playing time until he gets his head and his game together. He needs an attitude adjustment, a dose of humility and an opportunity to overcome his immaturity. As is, he is both unplayable and untradeable.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

Yup, and you wanted to get rid of him. A player has a bad game or a bad month, or even a bad season, and you want to get rid of them. A player has a good quarter, a good game, a good month, and you fall hopelessly in love.

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

if niko and pelle both played in europe niko would be the better player.i said from the beginning pelles game is more nba ish shnozzys isnt.

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

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Last edited 2 months ago by 2qbn
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

If Spo was going to play the young guys more, Riley should have opted for a rebuild and traded veterans for more young players and draft picks before the deadline. He didn’t do that. He didn’t trade for any upgrades either. Therefore, we must presume he thinks the current roster is good enough to compete with the elite teams.

Jovic should have been sent to Sioux Falls months ago. His head and his game are all f’d up and aren’t getting any better. He needs to mature, gain confidence and figure out what kind of player he wants to be. Right now, he is stuck in limbo with no way out. The further this goes on the more rattled and desperate he is becoming. His $62.4M contract kicks in next season. At the moment, he isn’t worth $6.24M. Another Riley faux pas. He should have saved the money to pay Jaquez. If you use Niko’s contract as a barometer, Jaime should be worth quite a bit more (in the $20-25M per year range) when he becomes eligible for an extension this summer.

Jacucionis and Johnson could also benefit from a steady diet of G League minutes. Its not like the Heat is competing for anything other than a play-in spot.

If Spo keeps playing them he will alienate the regular rotation players such as Wiggins, Powell and Fontecchio, who are actually trying to win games and who are free to walk away this summer as unrestricted free agents.

Riley’s failure to make any moves whatsoever before the trade deadline demonstrates he is more committed to maintaining a mediocre team than serious about building a championship team. He had three choices:

1) Upgrade the roster,
2) Tank and rebuild the roster
3) Maintain the status quo.

He chose the last option. Now the team and the fans will suffer the consequences while Arison’s pockets keep getting filled.

Interesting Facts: Regarding Micky Arison’s Wealth (2025–2026) 

  • Net Worth: As of February 2026, Micky Arison’s net worth was estimated to be around $10.1 billion to $18.7 billion.
  • The Miami Heat were valued at $5.7 billion by Forbes in October 2025, ranking them as the 8th most valuable NBA team.
  • Growth: The franchise value saw a massive ~30% increase from the $4.25 billion estimate in 2024.
  • The team generated $417 million in revenue during the 2024-25 season, with a strong reliance on gate receipts (approximately 25% of revenue).
  • Operating Income: The Heat generated an estimated $110 million in operating income in 2025, indicating high profitability.
2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

Not true on rebuild with regards to the young guys. The NBA more than any other league is a get burned to come back and burn. For example, Heat had to lose to the Pistons to come back to beat the Pistons from 05 to 06. This FO clearly believes that actual war scars are worth more than some half ass performance on a Tuesday night of a 20 win season. You can disagree and that is fine, but you might be following the wrong team.

The Arison money s**t doesn’t really matter if teams don’t want to trade with you. I get your overall point, but this team is at minimum in top 4/5 in success over the last 20+ years. Really odd to go that route considering that level of success, but whatever makes you happy.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Yeah relying on past success for future gain lmao, Pat Riley school of thinking that’s why all these ss players come here yeah after year Donovan Mitchell kd Giannis dame. Oh wait

Heat fan
Heat fan
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

Jovic is garbage he has one good game now spo won’t stop giving him playing time when it’s clear he has no defense he turns the ball over entirely too much and he can’t score

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

Wow, it would be good for some folks to see how the pundits, the folks who try to make a livelihood following the Heat, some of the ones with the most expertise, view the Heat’s efforts at the deadline. These four guys, and one was driven to drink, make the article we are posting under look tame in comparison.
Thanks for posting.

Last edited 2 months ago by Bout30man
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

You’re welcome 30. I’ve noticed some folks around here are still drinking the Kool-Aid. Talk about blind faith. That’s the difference between being a fan and a cult member.

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

lol

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

lol

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago

heres my comments lets go heat .i learned that from rc

ManilaHeat
ManilaHeat
2 months ago

Herro: this is getting too close for comfort dodged another (trade) bullet
Jovic: so this is how it feels (sigh of relief)
Ware: sh*t less minutes still on this team

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

Knew once I saw him with Pat wade and ud he wasn’t getting traded said this days ago

Iknowtoomuch
Iknowtoomuch
2 months ago

Amen Matt Hanifan. Spo says…”we have enough”.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  Iknowtoomuch

They the playin champions ofc they have enough. A better team than the piston and the Knicks, Mia makes the playoffs those teams better watch out

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago

LMAO. That’s a good one.

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

Low bar

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

We will just have to let another season play out and see where we stand. I will still cheer our players on. Let’s try to learn something from every game, enjoying our strengths while not casting a blind eye to our weaknesses.

We aren’t in control, we have no say, and how we respond here means little. But, it is our community, and we come together here in our joy of the game. I couldn’t stop watching even if I tried. I wouldn’t mind winning at a higher percentage, but remember, everything runs in cycles and every dog will have his day.

The team is what it is and we should just accept it now. There isn’t much point in advocating for change anymore, at least for this year. The time for disappointment has come and passed and we must move on.

Last edited 2 months ago by Bout30man
ManilaHeat
ManilaHeat
2 months ago

Go Heat!! Or let’s replace that with an F…go Feat! lol the best play-in team in the history of the league!! Pat needs to step down and has to be replaced by Nico Harrison 😉😁😜

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

Hahahaha! 🙂

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  ManilaHeat

We have enough the pistons or the Knicks better watch out Mia gets in the playoffs who knows what will happen

oregoner
oregoner
2 months ago

F is for Wet Fart, which is what this team did at the trade deadline.

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  oregoner

Guy got so heated (pun intended) he said F+. Should it not be F- if it was that bad? 😛

Last edited 2 months ago by 2qbn
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

They should get a grade of whatever comes after F-.

2015Heat
2015Heat
2 months ago

I’m much higher on this team than most here but I don’t understand the argument to tear it down. There are 4 all-star level talents in the starting 5 (Herro, Powell, Wiggins, Bam). Key rotation pieces (Davion, Wiggins, Powell) are still fairly new to the team. There are two teams clearly better on paper than Miami (NYK and DET) but no team in the East this year is unbeatable. The biggest thing Miami needs is more time to play together. There is a lot of room for internal improvement from young players. And Bam is the key holding it all together. Every team in the league would want him in a trade.

Giannis and Ja not getting traded is a surprise, but there’s nothing to do if those teams are making irrational decisions to keep their franchise stars. Ja would have been an interesting addition but I can understand why Miami wouldn’t do it because of the contract. In this CBA (which is absolutely terrible for the players) a $40m contract is a big deal to take on.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

Here come the copism captains you and hfl

2015Heat
2015Heat
2 months ago

It’s not cope, I’ve been optimistic on this team since the summer when they added Norm for nothing. And having a year removed/fresh start from the bad trade vibes last year. The ingredients for a Pacers like run are there – there is that type of upside to this team in this Eastern conference. Sometimes it comes together and sometimes it doesn’t and the second half of the season will determine that. All the trade talk and players being up for contracts this offseason is a major concern, but the way this team approached this year they were talking about being contenders, and I think they believed it.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

I admire and appreciate your optimism, though I am very disappointed no moves were made. I felt strongly that if they weren’t going to be buyers, they should be sellers. Before the season, my prediction was 45-37. I still think that’s doable. I hope they avoid the play-in again. And I would be fine if they end up in the lottery.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Dude said pacers like run, stopped reading that delusional shit after that

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Agree. Look what teams like Phoenix and Toronto have done. Riley has passed his expiration date. Time for him to retire and cruise the seven seas (full-time).

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

All of us were optimistic about this season when the team started out 13-6. That was over 2 months ago and Riley did absolutely nothing, zero zilch, nada to upgrade the team. He apparently feels the fans will eat whatever crap he feeds them.

Miami has the easiest schedule in the NBA from here on in. If the team can’t come up with a winning record there is something wrong with Spo. Getting to the playoffs AND getting out of the first round by beating Detroit, New York or Boston is something entirely different.

2015Heat
2015Heat
2 months ago

There wasn’t much belief in the Heat before this season started, they were 50-1 to win the East, now are around 25-1. There was a lot of focus on the first round loss to CLE as proof that the team had reached its ceiling and should be torn down, which was overstated in my view.

In looking at playoff success there are of course many factors but one thing that’s essential now is depth, and that’s something Miami has, no one on the Heat is playing over 31 mpg

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

People have a ton of sand in their crack to down vote you, so up voting to get you back to even. 😉

Agree on having All Stars and playing time together. Injuries have killed the flow of the season so far. Hope we get lucky with the health to see what’s up.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

We’re coping now cool. Mia gonna be world champions lmfao embarrassing

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

Nobody asked you. Thanks.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Going for the 5th consecutive playin championship yay………LET’S GO HEAT. Who cares about getting better we have enough

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

hhnotheat fan4 life has never said a positive word about the heat.theres no way he is a heat fan.i criticize the heat but also praise some players .this guy has never said one positive thing about the heat.unfort hes right most of the time

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

Some people aren’t happy unless their diaper is full.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Or aren’t happy with mediocrity yall can be though

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

Okay, champ.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Nah that’s the Mia heat playin champs

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

I’m just happy for you that you can feel better about your station with these posts. I’m here for you.

Hothothoopsfan4life
Hothothoopsfan4life
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

I have said positive things about the team. When they first got Powell I was saying positive things then the season happened and the team is right where they were these last 4 seasons. I’m tired aren’t yall the fans who were chanting “we want Giannis” the other day as Mia was getting beat seem to be fed up. Time for a change no ss is coming from being traded here or FA cause it doesn’t work like that, also teams still mad about the big 3 formation doesn’t help but that’s another story for another time. Go draft one preferably top 5 where your chances improve drastically compared to picking 15-30 which is were mia picks since it’s a mediocre team. Could Mia be like cha, wsh atl sure but wsh did something so has atl. Team needs an enema

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Freedom of speech. We’re not an authoritarian dictatorship country… yet.

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

There’s not too many who wanted to tear it down, maybe a few. Most of us felt we are close enough to be buyers at the deadline. I feel we had two needs, one, a quality backup big, but better than Drummond, which would seem reasonably acquire-able. And second would be a much harder get, a sf to upgrade on Andrew, an A- level player, while still keeping Andrew. We would have had to trade one of our young guns and Ty, in my ideal scenario. I felt that would make us pretty competitive. It’s all water under the bridge now but it was because I felt we were close, and better than last year, that gave me hope.
C’est la vie.

Last edited 2 months ago by Bout30man
2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

I was with you on Ja. I guess they didn’t like the risk of the length and price of his contract, so we’re locked in for this season minus a possible buy out guy.

Now we have to wait and see how it plays out going in to next offseason. Herro is up for a contract along with Norm. You could see a situation where there is serious roster change.

Regarding SF, it sounds like maybe Oubre and/or KJ Martin get bought out. Wouldn’t be terrible, though Oubre is probably a bit wild for Spo lol

Last edited 2 months ago by 2qbn
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Herro is up for a contract along with Norm.

Along with Jaquez and Wiggins if he opts out, not to mention Johnson and Fontecchio who have expiring contracts. In addition, I think Gardner has earned a two year contract like what Johnson got. Haven’t seen enough of Goldin to comment one way or another.

2015Heat
2015Heat
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Yeah no trade at all is disappointing no doubt. I thought they would and thought maybe they could do something with Rozier’s expiring, but the value of expirings now isn’t the same in this CBA. One thing the Heat do well is they are disciplined in trades – they don’t make trades if the terms are lopsided against them. If Memphis for example was really insisting on a FRP and Jaquez for Ja and his $42/45m contract the next two years, Miami was right to not make that trade.

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

I would have made that trade but I admit it would have been risky. It just that it’s so hard to get a player that has upside like that. Ja has Dr J like hops. I see your points. Your take is coming from another perspective and is helpful.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Absolutely…no way in hell I would have made that trade. With Ja’s checkered past, injury history and high salary, Miami would have taken all the risk and Memphis would have received all the benefit. 6MOY candidate and 1st round pick, no way in hell.

Conversely, Memphis should have given Miami a pick just to take Morant off their hands. Why would a rebuilding team conceivably want to keep a high risk, over-priced player who is still owed over $100M? Who’s their GM, Niko Harrison?

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

Maybe I missed it, but did we ever hear what Memphis really wanted for Ja, even after the price drop? I would be curious.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2qbn

Jaquez, pick and Spo’s first born male child.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

You last me at: I’m much higher”

2015Heat
2015Heat
2 months ago

There’s a lot of groupthink among NBA writers who overlook Miami (that’s been a pattern for years, even when they were making runs to the ECF and Finals) and there are a lot of emotional swings among fans of a team which is normal. But the calls that people are making now to shut down Bam and Norm for the rest of the season make no sense. There’s a very mechanical idea that you can tank your way to success that gets fans of many teams saying to blow up the team every year.

I’m trying to look at the team in terms of talent and potential and see where they stack up in the East, and I still see them as a dark horse Finals team. They didn’t help themselves at the deadline, but leaguewide nothing really changed much this deadline. Detroit got slightly better (added Kevin Huerter), NYK replaced injured Miles McBride with Jose Alvarado, CLE improved in swapping Harden for Garland. But the balance of contenders didn’t change – most moves were made to drop salary. A third of the NBA is tanking this season, so there is room to improve the record post-ASB. I do want to see how the Heat approach these games after the trade deadline because of the mental component of being involved in trade discussions

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

Again, I like your positive approach, but I just can’t see this team having any chance of being anywhere near a contender this season. I didn’t think they were last season and that proved to be correct. What I like about this team right now is that it has continued to get younger and I think that is a key for future success. But we definitely need an upgrade.

Last edited 2 months ago by Reality Czech
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

Talk is cheap. If Arison and Riley had sincerely believed this version of the Heat was close to being a contender, they would have done everything possible to upgrade the roster before the trade deadline in order to prepare for the homestretch and the playoffs. Instead, they did absolutely nothing but continue to gaslight the fans.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago

* lost

Turtlekrogan
Turtlekrogan
2 months ago
Reply to  2015Heat

I will say I’m disappointed in the sense that there really seemed to be no way to get rid of Rozier? Otherwise, I do agree that the Heat FO takes a more conservative approach to deals (maybe too conservative?). I don’t know, we’ll see what happens the rest of the season. And, I would say the Heat are lucky as a franchise in the sense that they’ve still made it to the finals (though they lost both times) in the last decade vs. some other franchises that haven’t made it to the finals yet. Does Pat Riley need to adapt to a changing landscape of young players being good right out of college? I think so. Is he going to? Maybe not, older people have a harder time changing their ways. I’m also not entirely sure Spo is without blame. I think he has some questionable coaching quirks (why doesn’t he play certain players that play well more?), though I love him because he’s done more with less more often than not (especially come playoff time). I’m disappointed yet I would say as long as the players still enjoy playing for the Heat after all this, I’m good.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago

Dayam, I could have written this article. It is definitely what many of us are thinking at this moment

The definition of insanity is: “Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.” The words mismanagement, incompetence and senility also come to mind.

Apparently there was no contingency plan if the trade for Gianni’s didn’t materialize. There was no Plan B, C or D. Other teams realized the Bucks would not be trading him before the deadline so they made other moves. All other teams except Miami. Maybe Riley is hoping a white man with a white hat on a white horse (Herro) will ride into town to save the day? Who tf knows.

The only word I can think of to explain why Riley didn’t pursue other options was FEAR. He is more afraid of being responsible for the decision to tank and rebuild than he is of the decision to do nothing and accept mediocrity.His ego can’t take it. His focus on his personal legacy is a higher priority than building a contender.

Mediocrity is a choice. Riley has obviously chosen that path. As I’ve said in the past, this team needs an enema…starting at the top.

Last edited 2 months ago by SunManFromDogBone
Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

What you say here, even though Riley’s inner motivations are unknowable, it has the ring of truth. I particularly found the line about his focus on his personal legacy compelling.

Last edited 2 months ago by Bout30man
SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Just trying to tell it like it is. What other explanations are there?

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

Our board does have a myriad of pov’s. Which is good. We all see things a little different, but I do enjoy reading your takes as they sometimes aspire to a higher level.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Thanya vera mush (my Fat Elvis impression).

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago

our best player flat out quit on us.it takes time to recover.im giving pat the offseason when terrys off the books.the man knows what hes doing hes old but gm brain has to still be there.although judging by some of his drafts im beginning to wonder

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

When did you have the brain transplant heat? There’s something different about your attitude. Can’t put my finger on it.

heat for life
heat for life
2 months ago

his legacy is set in stone lakers knicks heat u kidding me him red auerbach phil j pop mt rushmore ,

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  heat for life

If its set in stone, he should stop chipping away at it with a chisel. Its the last thing he does that people will remember him for. We’re in a “what have you done for us lately” world. He’ll be viewed the way a washed up athlete who refuses to quit is viewed.

Zachary Kap
Zachary Kap
2 months ago

NBA purgatory, is where Miami lives.

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago
Reply to  Zachary Kap

(We) are losing our minds just a little,
So why don’t you just meet me in the middle, in the middle.

2qbn
2qbn
2 months ago

lol

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago

Thank you for a great column, a great assessment. Maybe it’s an important column in that maybe people’s perceptions, those who haven’t already come to the same.conclusions, will finally begin to do so. And maybe that will auger change. Your words are also the culmination of everything I have been thinking for quite some time now. Pat Riley only has a job anymore due to nepotism, full stop.

Last edited 2 months ago by Bout30man
vagibugi
vagibugi
2 months ago

I guess there will be a lot ” We like this group going forward”… or “we will get there”…. in another long and sad offseason.

Bout30man
Bout30man
2 months ago
Reply to  vagibugi

Yes, we’ve been thru this so many times now we already know how they will attempt to define it. It’s going to be a long thirty more games for the playin kings.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
2 months ago
Reply to  vagibugi

Meanwhile, Spo will continue stressing out and losing his hair trying to find a way to make lemonade out of lemons. Going to the NBA Finals with the quitter in 2023 as a #8 seed is fool’s gold. Riley evidently hasn’t accepted that it can’t be easily replicated and is trying to catch lightening in a bottle.

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