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Tim Hardaway Jr. signs with Miami Heat

Tim Hardaway Jr.
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Free agent guard Tim Hardaway Jr. has agreed to a one-year, $6.5 million deal with the Miami Heat, ESPN NBA insider Shams Charania first reported Tuesday.

Hardaway’s new deal will use up $6.5 million of the Heat’s mid-level exception, according to Anthony Chiang of the Miami Herald. This could take them out of the LeBron James sweepstakes, barring another move or two, if the 42-year-old doesn’t want to play for less than $5 million, which is all the Heat can offer (unless it’s a sign-and-trade).

Hardaway has been linked to the Heat for quite some time. He was a priority free agent for them heading into the offseason, and was one of my favorite free agent options available to the Heat after acquiring Giannis Antetokounmpo.

Hardaway, 35, was outstanding with the Denver Nuggets last season. He averaged 13.5 points on 40.7 percent from 3-point range, finishing third in Sixth Man of the Year voting. He will be entering his age-35 season, which is worth mentioning. But he is still a quality (albeit streaky) 3-point shooter — both on spot-up and movement attempts — at this stage of his career.

We’ll see if the 13-year veteran will be able to continue his torrid play from last year, despite his disappointing postseason run.

Miami still has more work to do. They have enough to cover up for Hardaway’s defense (or lack thereof), but they still need extra shooting and shot creation, as well as more size in the frontcourt behind Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo.

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Alien
Alien
1 month ago

Welcome Tim to Miami.
On the flip side, I think Lebron may end up with the Cavs.
1. Best to retire at home with the Cavs.
2. Lebron would like to be a part owner of an NBA team. Cavs may offer that option.
3. Too many egos in Miami.

vagibugi
vagibugi
1 month ago

I watched a lot of Hardaway in Dallas years ago. He can be such frustrating player.
Either is off or on. You need another shooter to replace him if he is off.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  vagibugi

Fontecchio and the rookie. Maybe Uncan if he gets waived. Mitchell is gonna need to kick it up a notch. Take more shots.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

maybe not uncan,defense is 1/2 the game.comeon lebron ben simmons now uncan .dav needs to take more shots yes

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Hardaway is a below average defender too. Why do you think Dallas let him go?

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago

I hope Butler is feeling those Jaylen Brown blues, being dangled out there while LeBron makes up his mind. Warriors have to know so that can begin negotiations with the Wizards and dump you over there. It’s nice to be somewhere that you’re wanted, right Jimmy?

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Yup. He was laying it on pretty thick saying how much he loved the bay area, the people, yada, yada, yada. Preemptive begging.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

boston doing their due diligence trying to improve team.ditto gsw.the only player who is untradeable is jokic cuz hes da best player.you dont think pat would trade greek for joker?jalens gotta realize greeks better player celts were looking to improve.just take look bank acct jalen stfu u spoiled athlete.be happy to be a multi multi millionaire.somebody wants to trade me for sm i understand that,me for rc id be pissed

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Don’t worry, we can’t be traded for each other – you’re not in the same league as me. I’d have to be demoted first.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Brown is another money over jewelry player. Greed (owners and players) is a plague on the NBA and pro sports in general. May the best team money can buy win.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago

Here are the full odds for the top 10 landing spots this free agency period for James, a four-time champion, Finals MVP and league MVP:

Golden State Warriors: -250Cleveland Cavaliers: +170Miami Heat: +800San Antonio Spurs: +3000Detroit Pistons: +3000Dallas Mavericks: +3000Milwaukee Bucks: +4000Brooklyn Nets: +4000Washington Wizards: +5000Philadelphia 76ers: +5000
So you’re telling me there’s a chance? Maybe the Heat should keep 2 spots open until James decides where he’s going (one for LeBron and one for Bronny). At this point, its not the money, its the ring(s) and the development of Bronny. Plus James taking less might encourage Giannis to give the Heat a price break on his extension in order to recruit and retain the best supporting cast.

Theoretical Roster
Mitchell, Wiggins, James, Giannis, Bam
Smith, Hardaway, Larsson, Fontecchio, Portis
Garland, Conwell, Bronny, Jovic, Goldin

P.S. James has indicated his decision may take a couple of days to a couple of weeks. If Miami believes it has a legit chance to sign him, they should keep 2 slots open.

Last edited 1 month ago by SunManFromDogBone
2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

The Warriors told him they want a commitment before they try to trade for AD. He’s not the type of person that is just winging these decisions. No doubt he’s thought about this, so waiting weeks would be ridiculous and leave himself with less chances to allow the team he signs with to build properly. Same as it ever was

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

All part of a wild wild life.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

I wish he would stop dragging my heart around.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

stevie nix reference .not big fleetwood mac guy.top 30 band maybe.the bam adebayo of bands

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Stevie and Petty version was best.

vagibugi
vagibugi
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Beware of psycho killer.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  vagibugi

Especially if he speaks French.

Bout30man
Bout30man
1 month ago

I happen to know what the French lyrics to Psycho Killer are (not just qu’est-ce que c’est, which means “what is this”),
as I learned a version of that song on guitar and I once sang it karaoke. There is a verse in French where the translation is something like…
What I did that night,
What you saw that night,
All my dreams fulfilled,
Onward to glory…
I, yi yi, yi yi, yi yiiii!

Last edited 1 month ago by Bout30man
heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

any contender he goes to makes them fav to win it all.hes more like magic now.makes everybody better.hes goes to gsw they would be favs.comes here we would be favs.hes still a major needle mover.lakers are now a playin team

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

heat for life
 10 hours ago
Reply to Zac
lebron at his age his status little lazy especially on d go play with steph goat

Wow! I’d try to kick a field goal, but that goalpost is moving at an unprecedented rate.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

he did same sht down here but when it mattered the most he guarded/hes still a top 15 player

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

I’m a big fan and would love it if he signed here, even if that’s unlikely. I think the Heat may hold off filling the last couple of spots until they’re sure.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

combo of holiday middleton lopez would be fine with me.i cant see the goat coming here it didnt end good with pat,above 3 have had relationship with greek.i believe if we got middleton and holiday were clear favs in east.jrue would start over dav middletons similar to derozan a bucket getter.mt lopez a space eater lets portis play the 4.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

I don’t know why you keep repeating the same false narrative.
Jackson and Chang of the Miami Herald reported the relationship between the Heat and James “is now strong,” noting that the star has “embraced” Pat Riley when they’ve seen each other and that his agent Rich Paul has “spoken in glowing terms about the Heat.”

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

I would also add him adding Holiday. Jrue? How would we be able to trade for him? No chance.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Roses are red violets are blue I’m schizophrenic and so am I.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

He’s like Giannis. They both like wallowing in the attention. He’ll milk it as long as he can. I hope Heat don’t lose a good signing opportunity or two waiting for him to ultimately pick Cavs or Dubs. Riley should ask his agent if Miami is being seriously considered. If not Heat should on.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

dont wait for him it will piss middleton holiday off.im calling portland asap theyve got crowded bc up there.they could be a pretty good team if ja stays away from the bloods and cripps in portland if they even have them up there

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

They do but they are much more mellow.

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

D Wade gets almost $10 per year from 76ers.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

Huh?

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

dean not dewayne unless he came out of retirement

Bout30man
Bout30man
1 month ago

Another good move. We are one move away, from being ready to contend. It might be Beal, unless it’s Powell somehow.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  Bout30man

Or Beal and Middleton.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  Bout30man

it wont be norm dont have $$ for him.need a ring chaser old vet.norm still in prime until 60 games then he drops off

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

Getting ugly in Boston with the market for Brown being light after they asked for four 1sts and players. Lmao

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

send him here for bam and fonzi id do that in a boston heartbeat

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

we need greeks ex teammates who first hand saw how great he was to give us a discount.no other way to get a decent player

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

Smart probably to Houston. I like that for both parties

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

Kennard to Suns. I’m okay with that one. Not a big fan and he would play a similar role to Simone.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

53 48 last year career 44% career on 3s,one of the two three best shooters in nba.please dont compare him to simone not close 2q.now of course that defense is another issue

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

He gets played to start the season and by the end he plays less and less. It’s been happening often with him the last few seasons. Check the tape.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

hes a vanilla one wayer but an excellent shooter next to steph prob second best shooter

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

marlins looking good

Bout30man
Bout30man
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

The game they are playing is 8-1 right now. Likely to go six over .500, 20-6 in June, best month in history of Marlins.

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Conine coming back from injury with a power swing might be just what the Dr ordered.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

gotta send marsee to minors hes really slumping put sanoja in center

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

against righties theyre deadly against lefties our right handed batters not that good

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

Damn! Lakers going to sign Grimes and Mamu. Oof. Was hoping for a Grimes signing. I like Mamu but out of our range. No word yet on how much.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

Just saw that. Oh well, onwards and upwards.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

whos mamu sounds like a killer whale

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Sandro Mamukelashvili. Dang you making me type that name. He’s a very good backup center.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

i call him milli vanilli

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

crazy looking guy from toronto.yeah he shoots lots 3.wild looking dude

TheBigRagu
TheBigRagu
1 month ago

We got the kid

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago

Just a thought. I would be interested in seeing the Heat sign Ben Simmons as a back-up PG and/or as a point forward at vet minimum (only after he has passed both physical and psychological exams). He could be a wild card if he is healthy and has his head together. He is what can be called low risk/high reward.

Simmons was a three-time NBA All-Star and the 2017-18 Rookie of the Year. He averaged 13.1 points, 7.4 rebounds and 7.2 assists in his career and was a two-time All-Defensive performer.

Simmons is the same size as Jovic 6’10” 240 lbs. If nothing else, they can beat the crap out of each other fighting for playing time and hopefully, one of them surfaces as a solid rotation player. They each have something they can learn from each other.

Best case scenario, he becomes a solid rotation player. Worst case scenario, he crashes and burns and is released.

Big_guy305
1 month ago

I would do it and give him a shot, he would help with D, size, rebounding, and facilitating.

Zachary Kap
Zachary Kap
1 month ago
Reply to  Big_guy305

We just going to throw out the last 5-6 years? The guy has been unplayable since 2020. He’s had back problems. Mental health problems. This isn’t 2015. Stay far away…

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  Zachary Kap

He’s had back surgery and allegedly is better. That’s exactly why he needs both full physical and psychological exams. Only if he passes both should the Heat consider signing him on a vet minimum contract.

Big_guy305
1 month ago
Reply to  Zachary Kap

Ofcourse I didn’t forget, but pickings are slim. So provided he passes both exams like Sunman said, then I would give him a shot on a 1 year vet min deal as a last resort. If we dont get yabu, hayes, or any other adequate option. Plus next season we could look for better options, since he would be a year rental.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  Big_guy305

I still say I’d make him point (backup) center.He can defend, rebound, pass, and score at the basket, but can’t shoot from distance. And he has the size.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

when guys retire or havent played in a while when they come back usually it doesnt go well.the goat of womens tennis example 1.phillip rivers.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  heat for life

Michael Jordan.

heat for life
heat for life
1 month ago

last two years not jordanesque.good try ill give u that but please no ben simmons.guy had ss potential 4 sure but wasnt dedicated to his craft.sort of like ware so far..

vagibugi
vagibugi
1 month ago

I would risk that.

Zachary Kap
Zachary Kap
1 month ago

Another nail in the coffin of the LeBron story. Guess while it felt obvious there was no chance, the story seemed to be everywhere.

Wonder who was reporting the supposed interest…can’t imagine the team really checked in on it.

Now only chance would be moving Niko, who at $16m, won’t he be easy to move.

Also if Hardaway Jr is 6m, think we can write off Simons, Brown, Oubre, and others for minimum. Gonna be bargain shopping once the supply of cap dries up.

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  Zachary Kap

Lebron’s team been saying nice things about the Heat. He said he just wants to be happy and not about money. action speaks louder than words, so feel free to sign for vet minimum, Bron. 😉

No way Simons agrees to the minimum, but do think we need a younger SG option, not just Pelle.

I still think Niko can be in the frontcourt rotation if not traded.

Big_guy305
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

Billionaire Bron ego is too high to sign for the minimum, especially now since jock and Timmy signed for a higher deal. I like the signing btw, but just wish it was on the minimum. A young sg option would be Keon ellis, another option is pat Spencer, or look for growth from the Gardner. Lastly niko has a lot to prove, so he better get with the program, and turn his 3pt shot back around, improve his rebs, playmaking, shotmaking because this is his last chance.

Reality Czech
Reality Czech
1 month ago
Reply to  Big_guy305

Ellis to Nets.

Big_guy305
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

Dang looking scarce out there.

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  Reality Czech

At $9 per year. Ouch. No way Simons takes less. Grimes is maybe the same with player option year 2, though probably looking for $10-12 minimum.

Last edited 1 month ago by 2qbn
Zachary Kap
Zachary Kap
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

I for one will be absolutely shocked is LeBron agrees to anything less than a full MLE.

Most of the players I’d want are more aged vets, but I think they’ll almost all get more $ than minimum. I’d love to fill out the squad with Ourbe or Brown and Hayes at Center. But I feel like that’s a pipe dream

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago
Reply to  Zachary Kap

For what some of these guys are signing for, most seems like a pipe dream. lol At this rate we better hope Beal will take a minimum. We can rotate him and Hardaway until someone gets hurt. 😛

Bout30man
Bout30man
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

That’s what I was hoping for too.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago

That’s a very good signing. Still have a couple to go . It would be great if a couple of summer league players turn out to be keepers. I was sorry to see Johnson was not re-signed. He looked like a potential late (very late) bloomer to me.

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

We took care of shooter (Simone) and vet guy who could start (Hardaway). We still need a starting SG and would be nice to get some sort of a big. Landale got $14 for one season, so who knows who could be a legit option.

SunManFromDogBone
SunManFromDogBone
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

Why not start Pelle or Hardaway? Go with what you have until/ unless someone better comes along.

Maybe the rookie will turn out more rotation ready than we think or Gardner settles down and plays up to his potential. Time will tell.

There’s still the Jovic question.

2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

Pelle started a lot last season, so it’s definitely an option. I don’t think it would be good to start Hardaway all season. We want to make sure he’s still alive come playoffs.

I think we would feel better if we got a Grimes or Simons to start or come off the bench. More scoring options is a good problem, but yeah, let’s see how this unfolds.

Big_guy305
1 month ago
Reply to  2qbn

If we don’t get that sg, then I see either pelle or Jr getting the nod. Also to a lesser extent maybe jovic can be sg if he gets his head out his ass, or even myron if his 3 becomes reliable. At this point yabusele would possibly be the best we could hope for as another big who could shoot the 3 adequately, and possibly had for cheap. If not then probably Ben Simmons, hayes, or rely on vlad .

Last edited 1 month ago by Big_guy305
2qbn
2qbn
1 month ago

Posting again.

Hardaway in the boat. We called that one early. For $6.5. I knew he would not get the minimum after hitting 40% of his 3s

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