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Report: Heat listed as a possible suitor for Minnesota’s Nickeil Alexander-Walker

Nickeil Alexander-Walker Miami Heat
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The Minnesota Timberwolves had a busy weekend, signing Naz Reid to a five-year, $125 million deal before signing Julius Randle to a three-year, $100 million deal Sunday.

However, these moves could come at the expense of 3-and-D guard Nickeil Alexander-Walker because of the second apron. Could the Miami Heat take advantage?

According to Minnesota beat reporter Jon Krawcynski of The Athletic, the Heat are among multiple teams who could possibly be in the hunt for the 26-year-old guard, who is coming off one of the best seasons of his six-year career.

“Nickeil Alexander-Walker has likely priced himself out of Minnesota, which is trying to stay under the second apron to avoid repeater penalties on roster construction,” Krawcynski’s report read. “Alexander-Walker is expected to land a deal for at least the non-taxpayer midlevel exception, and possibly higher, which is too rich for the Wolves to go to and not go over the second apron.

“The Wolves do have a few young guards and wings, including Terrence Shannon Jr., Jaylen Clark and Rob Dillingham, who the team believes are ready to step in and take Alexander-Walker’s minutes should he move on. The Atlanta Hawks, Milwaukee Bucks, Los Angeles Clippers, Detroit Pistons and Miami Heat are among a number of teams to watch in the hunt for Alexander-Walker.”

Alexander-Walker is expected to be one of the best shooters available once free agency begins Monday at 6 p.m. EST.

Last season, he averaged 9.4 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.7 assists on 43.8 percent shooting, including 38.1 percent from 3-point range and 75.7 percent from the free-throw line, appearing in all 82 games for the second straight season.

I have previously listed Alexander-Walker as one of the contingency options if the Heat lose Duncan Robinson, who exercised his $19.9 million early termination option Sunday, in free agency. The benefit of Robinson clearing $20 million is that the Heat are now below the projected luxury tax and are $19 million below the first apron, allowing them to use their full non-taxpayer mid-level exception (~$14.1M) with one available roster spot. They can, of course, create more flexibility if they get off of money in trades, but that’s where they currently sit.

All in all, they have the flexibility. Should the Heat more than the taxpayer’s portion of the MLE ($5.7M), then they would be hard-capped below the projected $195.9 million first apron.

That said, it remains to be seen if this is a leverage play or not.

According to Marc Stein and Jake Fischer of The Stein Line, the Hawks are viewed as the frontrunners for Alexander-Walker because they can use their $25.3 million trade exception to absorb his salary if a sign-and-trade is lined up.

Miami may have some competition ahead of them if they want to nab Alexander-Walker–especially if it loses Robinson. Do you think the Heat should pursue Nickeil Alexander-Walker?!? Let us know in the comments!

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heat for life

dame wanters out there?

oregoner

always

heat for life

duncs coming back unless pat can get him in a trade with other players.nobody wants his defense

heat for life

clarkson to nyk he suks certified chucker

heat for life

bucks waiving dame

heat for life

myles turner to bucks wow guess greek staying.its kuminga or bust

heat for life

were the favs to get kuminga,no gap years please.a good gm can build thru trades (ind okc),sunman the floors yours.first order of biz get kuminga derozan with bam ware mitchell starting five wed win the depleted east.lots of feistiness from my step bro ,again my bro always taking shots at the heat never one nice word ever said .what frigign team do u follow cause it aint the heat.im just a frustrated heat fan cause the team needs a new gm.pats being so outgmed.

HybridPi

OKC tanked for years to build.

vagibugi

I know some of you are a bit angry right now, but that’s not excuse for such language. Calm down, boys, and get a beer.

Reality Czech

I agree with you

Bout30man

Gosh, I was feeling bad for referring to some on this site as a mob. But, now you are teaming up and claiming hhhf4l is a troll. I seem to remember him from long ago. Don’t you all see he is just a disgruntled fan like me. This preaching patience has been going on for so long now that you should be able to understand when now it’s falling on deaf ears. We went thru this last year too, as Oregoner states. Maybe it will be different this year, but some of the same issues that stopped us from improving much (Burks) beyond Ware (Mitchell, Wiggins and SloMo were a wash with losing Jimmy, and that’s only because we didn’t have to pay Jimmy). We have some players that were overvalued by our GM, and they are hard to move. All the pigeons of bad trades, mistaken draft picks, and ill advised contracts, they all are coming home to roost.
It’s a tale of two cities in south Florida winter sports, We have the best GM in hockey and a mini dynasty going. We call the guy, the Wizard. He just signed every important player from last years Stanley Cup winner, in an artistic display of shrewd negotiating. We are actively pursuing a three peat! I want you to know how effusive in my appreciation I am on their site for the team and the GM. It’s not that I’m hypercritical, it’s just that there is an incredible difference in how things are done.
I can’t get you to see it my way and I don’t mind. In fact, I appreciate some of your positivity and optimism. I would like to share it but I see no reason to as of yet.

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SunManFromDogBone

Dude, we all understand your frustration with Riley and his poor player decisions. Believe me, we understand. But wtf can we do other than brainstorm to come up with solutions to correct the mistakes of the past while trying to be patient and not lose our sh*t about the future.

Last year, the Heat was mired in a funk with a bunch of bad contracts and underperforming players, including Butler, after he had his shitfit and started acting like a little bitch and ultimately decided to just flat out quit on the team and his teammates. Plus, who knows what was going on with Spo. He wasn’t right.

Looking at the bright side of things:

  • Ware will be stronger and more experienced coming into camp.
  • Jakučionis looks like a steal of the draft who reportedly has a little Dragic and a little Luka in his game,
  • Jovic, Jaquez, Larsson and Johnson will be a year older, more mature and ready to prove they belong and can flourish in the NBA.
  • Wiggins looks like an adequate two-way player who is good for 16-20 ppg.
  • Rozier, now that he has been cleared of federal game fixing charges, may come in to camp with a new sense of calm and confidence that will help him restore his game.
  • Dru Smith should return from his injury with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove.
  • Bam and Herro should also come into camp with chips on their shoulders and determined to prove all their sceptics wrong.
  • Mitchell, along with Bam, should be team leaders on defense driving the other players to take their games to a higher level.
  • Spo will hopefully return with a clear head. He wasn’t himself last season. He seemed preoccupied and made mistakes he normally doesn’t mistake. A divorce is never easy, especially when children are involved. On top of that, dealing with the disruption and chaos created by a self-centered prima donna quitter could not have been easy.
  • Anderson, Highsmith and Love in addition to Rozier, are sitting on $45M in expiring contracts and may have trade value by the trade deadline.
  • Robinson has opted out of his contract, freeing $19,888,000 in payroll.
  • Miami has a $14.1 million non-taxpayer mid-level exception available for the 2025-26 season. The Heat also have a taxpayer mid-level exception of $5.7 million, which would keep them under the luxury tax. Additionally, they have a bi-annual exception of $5.1 million. 
  • If a trade or trades become available to Riley that will improve the team now and in the future, I believe he will take it/them.

I’m optimistic that the path has already been cleared for a Miami resurgence. I also think the team will become substantially younger, faster, more athletic and better defensively over the next two seasons. All that is needed is patience, continuing development of the younger players, strategic thinking, a willingness to pull the trigger on positive trades and the ability to select good draft picks and free agents that will fit Miami’s team culture and long term goals.

Contrary to what some folks may feel, the sky is not falling. Consider 2025-2026 as an opportunity for the Heat to regroup, refocus and redefine what kind of team it will be. Meanwhile, I intend to enjoy watching the young players develop. I am particularly high on the futures of Ware, Johnson and Jakucionis. The summer league should give us a glimpse of that future.

Summer League starts this weekend at the California Classic.
July 5th vs Spurs, 6th vs Lakers and 8th vs Warriors.

GO HEAT!!!

SunManFromDogBone

This just posted, not 14 hours ago. WTF?

Hothothoopsfan4life

They don’t agree with some people takes so I’m a troll. Just a fan tired of being lied to, watching teams around them get better and actually go out and acquire talent instead of waiting for some ss to walk through the arena doors, tired of mediocrity from the fo down to the players. Tired of hearing about this culture bs and too much pride to actually tank when the best player in heat history was a top 5 pick. Tired of supporting them when they don’t seem like they want better for themselves

oregoner

no, we call you a troll because you’re being a jerk to people

oregoner

okay, seperate from our current troll issues, I am starting to worry about the plan this offseason. Last year we spent days waiting for the Heat to do literally anything, and then after like 3 days they signed Alec Burks to a vet minimum and called it an offseason.

I don’t need the Heat to “win the offseason”. The last couple teams to win the offseason were the Suns two years ago and the Sixers last offseason. Let the Magic and Hawks win the offseason. I’m not worried about that.

But I would like to see the Heat make an upgrade at the wing. They have three good young bigs, and a decent stable of guards. But right now, the wing position is being manned by Wiggins, JJJ, and Slo-Mo. Not exactly a stable of all-stars. And that’s the most important position in the NBA.

Hopefully the Heat do something bigger than sign another vet minimum. Maybe it’s Kuminga, maybe it’s DeRozan. But I would love to see the Heat add at least one legitimately good player this offseason

Reality Czech

Rec

2qbn

Regarding wing, it’s odd, or funny, that the one guy clearly on the trade block with value is Wiggins. The one rumor we heard is Wiggins for two non-wing Lakers players.

I want to game this out a bit. I think Kuminga is out as the Warriors want a haul, and I don’t think the Heat are going to give them that haul, which is smart, in a way. Kuminga’s age timeline, to go along with his offensive potential, is enticing, and almost perfect for this current roster. But there is a big risk with him in that we truly don’t have a full proof of concept, as well as questions if he’s a Heat fit, so it has its risks.

DeRozan would be fun as a known commodity, and to possibly take pressure off other guys, but at what cost to development and possible lottery pick. Again, people want to complain about lack of talent, but also apparently don’t want a lottery pick. I don’t want to specifically tank, but I’m also okay with rolling out this roster if they play all the young guys consistently. They probably won’t make the playoffs, and that is okay. We could use a lottery pick. Boston tanked two years and ended up with Brown and Tatum. Spurs tanked and ended up with Wemby, Castle, and Harper. We need to do this for the following season and not spend on role players on multiple year deals.

Now that entire calculus can change if two of the young guys really pop, for example any combo of Ware, Niko, JJJ (regains form), Pelle or Kaspar (rookie much harder).

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oregoner

Okay, a lot to digest there. I kind of agree that Kuminga is probably not worth the cost. The main problem is that if the Warriors wanted Wiggins instead of Kuminga, they wouldn’t have traded us Wiggins. Probably fair to say that Kuminga is unlikely.

DeRozan or Monk would be a good get, especially if we can build a package around Wiggins. I gotta be honest, I would probably trade Wiggins for a bag of Donuts. He is a strong candidate for the Jamal Mashburn award.

As far as the young guys, I’m happy with what I’ve seen from Ware and Jovic. I’m happy with what I’ve seen from Mitchell and Pelle. I’ve spent a lot of time talking about the Heat ‘stealth rebuild’. But I think the obvious hole is on the wing.

2qbn

After that Cavs series I was ready to trade Wiggins for a carton of cigs and two quarts of pork fried rice. Shout out Golden Child.

I think Keshad is probably being considered as a guy who will need to contribute at the wing, especially if they trade Wiggins for a non-wing player. Which team is going to trade wing for a wing and both team agree this is the way?

Okay I went to trade machine and Wiggins for DeRozan straight up works. I would do that right now and let Pelle and Keshad play the wing and hope JJJ finds his form. Slo Mo can help a bit as well.

oregoner

I would even throw in a pick if the Heat could offload Wiggins and get DeRozan in return (although I’d probably prefer Monk)

2qbn

Bucks retain Porter and Trent. Giannis definitely staying now. lol

I should check their blog to see how they feel. Probably see this HHF4l guy

Hothothoopsfan4life

The most one-sided embarrassment of a playoff series sweep in NBA history. And we will see almost an identical Miami Heat roster hit the floor come opening night.

We won’t forget.

Courtesy HotHotHoops Twitter lmao 🤣

Last edited 14 days ago by Hothothoopsfan4life
2qbn

Almost FTW!

Hothothoopsfan4life

Troll FTW

2qbn

Almost is doing a lot of heavy lifting and a$$ covering is all I’m saying.

Also, just because someone who runs HHH twitter is as emotional as you doesn’t mean this is the team. Maybe. I actually hope so if you want to get more talent, but you guys make me laugh at how pouty you get after a few hours. Carry on.

oregoner

wait, that guy runs HHH twitter? Oh no, is internet culture slowly taking over our beautiful HHH community as well?

2qbn

I’m pretty sure AI runs it and in hopes of creating unrest to take over the world they accurately found marks to sow the seeds. 😉

oregoner

lol. I wonder if this dude is just an AI troll. His screen name is even a cheap ripoff of an already existing HHH troll. I still love HHH, but I do wish they had better mods and block features since leaving SBNation

Reality Czech

I could not agree more! It is clear to me that site management just doesn’t G A S.

oregoner

I don’t mean this as a threat, but I’ve been donating to the site ever since they left SBN. I’m wondering if I might stop doing that if this is the new normal

2qbn

Site management? Their twitter was just as emotional feeding the fire after 2-3 hours of free agency. Not serious people.

oregoner

how are there two of this guy now?

2qbn

He’s a troll. I will give him credit in getting Bout30 to think he was a Heat fan.

Hothothoopsfan4life

And you clowns are gullible idiots ready to accept anything someone gives you

2qbn

Exactly, like you being a Heat fan. Put down an assist on the record books for you on that one.

Hothothoopsfan4life

It’s this site/blog twitter dumass

Last edited 14 days ago by Hothothoopsfan4life
Alaska Emily

What’s a “blog twitter dumass”? Are you self-identifying for us? That’s very helpful, but we already knew you were a dumbass. I guess now we know you specialize in blogs and twitter?

Hothothoopsfan4life

This site the site your on rn twitter you dumb imbecile

oregoner

are you real or just an ai troll? Who is your favorite Heat second round pick of all time?

2qbn

I love this question lol

oregoner

lol. thanks. I was trying to think of a question with no “right” answer to see if it’s a bot. But you are free to answer if you choose.

2qbn

The first guy I would say I was excited about in 2nd round was Geiger because I watched tourney and his team made the sweet 16, so a player fresh in my head at that time.

I might say at the time my favorite ever was Marcus Thornton. I’m a Gator guy watching SEC ball and he was a beast. He ended up being a solid pro, but not what I was hoping.

oregoner

Geiger is a great answer. I was thinking Rasual Butler because that’s the first real “rebuild” I remember for the Heat, and he was drafted the same year as Caron and they called them the “Butler Brothers”.

Anyway, if he says Eddie House, this dude is definitely AI. Same with Dexter Pittman. If he says Mario Chalmers, it’s going to require at least two paragraphs for me to believe he’s not a bot. And if he says KZ Okpala I swear I will burn this place to the ground

SunManFromDogBone

Who GAF? Just watch the games and (to coin your phrase) stfu.

Hothothoopsfan4life

stfu You first gap year king

SunManFromDogBone

Here’s a song the guys & gals requested just for you. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sybrZXnWx60&list=RDsybrZXnWx60&start_radio=1

2qbn

Kennard to the Hawks on a 1 year deal. Funny two of the three reported to Rockets ended up in Atlanta after the Rockets gave DFS that contract.

If Kennard can get $11 for one year then Duncan can get $10-11, but he can’t be left holding the bag.

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Hothothoopsfan4life

Miami gonna run it back the same team for the 7th time! Never in the history of sports has a team that has underperformed so many times stay together as long as this team has. Sad on so many levels, oh I know we are supposed to support a gap year so the cheap billionaire can have money next year to land a whale that like many other whales before him aren’t coming here while other teams continue to get better around them this trash fo wait for players to magically come knocking on the Kaseya centers doors and immediately said player is on the team. Sell fans false hope year after year and most eat it up….Owner is nothing more than a figurehead and the actual owner is and still an ol school stubborn no longer sane living in the past gm. And the coach who some here don’t like to criticize hasn’t been the same since he signed that huge contract two years ago he hasn’t, granted he hasn’t had much to work with and his best player quit on him still doesn’t change the fact he’s regressed. Sell you doodoo and tell you it’s gold or however the saying goes! Everybody’s all excited for the rook when it’s not like he’s gonna get much playing time with this coaching staff. Most of his time will be in Sioux Falls. And back on the “gap year” aka tank year instead of them doing that this year we’re supposed to be fine and dandy with them doing it next year? It is what it is I guess said it before will say it again team has no idea what direction it wants to take and that’s sad

2qbn

I’m glad you saved us all so much time from the paying attention to the rest of free agency, trades, and the season. Good looking out, my man.

Hothothoopsfan4life

The excuse yall gonna use next year when they are in the playin and bounced out the first round “it’s a gap year” being a smart ass for no reason, yall like being pissed on and told it’s raining

https://www.youtube.com/live/pBHeY9LfOLM?si=m_kpg-FZo-L7gtt7

Find the part where he said they aren’t running it back clown smart ass

Last edited 14 days ago by Hothothoopsfan4life
2qbn

You said run it back for 7th time. The only guys here for a bit are Bam, Tyler and Duncan. 3 guys. Well, two as of right now Duncan is gone.

Most reports leading up to today had the Heat trying to trade, so because you didn’t get a new toy within the first two hours of FA doesn’t mean nothing is going to happen.

If nothing happens, great. The team has their 1st round pick. They have a bunch of players under 27, several going in to year 1-4. The reason the Spurs are getting stacked is because they tanked a couple times, including getting blessed once again with the 1st pick when a generational talent was coming out. With a pick in the back pocket you can use that to make the pick or a move in the offseason. It’s actually time the league let us get as lucky as other franchises in the lotto. Cough cough Dallas and Spurs cough cough.

People wanted and loved the Jimmy experience. Part of that is similar to Lebron in when they leave they leave a wake of destruction from all the roster moves they want the team to make. We are in the midst of dealing with and correcting it.

Lastly, just like you want to post about everything is terrible and everyone sucks, I can post about young guys I’m excited about. Post about how Niko is super underrated on this board. Post about young guys I’m excited to see play in summer league.

Enjoy digesting free agency how you like, sir.

2qbn

Again, I apologize you didn’t get a new toy in the first 2-3 hours. Hard times, for sure.

Last edited 14 days ago by 2qbn
Bout30man

When you don’t get a new toy in the first forty or so transactions, what is left is not likely to be as desirable. It’s possible to make a deal after the first big wave of transactions, but it’s often a bad sign too. Most of the people this site recommended we attempt to acquire, are long gone already. There are a few players remaining but mostly scraps.
We also may be able to move Wiggins in a glorified salary dump, but enthusiasm for anything we get back will be tempered by losing our third best player. But then again, a false dialog was promulgated around here that he was dogging it. That idea is complete garbage. He is in the right time line, and very much a B+ player, a complementary piece we can ill afford to lose, unless we got equal value back. But since we are up against the apron with other unmovable contracts, we are trading from need not strength, and are likely to get the Lakers, or someone else’s, castoffs.

Last edited 14 days ago by Bout30man
Reality Czech

I like Wiggins. Maybe I’d rate him more a B. If he stays, a full training camp should help to better integrate him into the team. He looked a bit lost at times, but the whole season was upside down with the quitter situation.

2qbn

The quitter is a HUGE reason for the last two seasons. He gets hurt the year before in the play-in, something he himself helped in not taking the regular season serious. Then he quits on the team the following season after rightly being called out. Herro didn’t quit like a baby. He became an AS.

It’s like people don’t want to understand, or acknowledge, what has happened. All that matters to them is trashing the team every year regardless if we make Finals or lose in 1st round.

Reality Czech

He ultimately lost interest every place he’s been. And diplomacy is not his strong suit. I remember a clip from the Sixers as he was heading to the locker room and yelled “Tobias Harris over ME???”. As noted, in February 2024, I said we should trade him as he, and the team, were going nowhere. I agree with anyone who says we waited too long because, subsequent to that period, the negative everything, everywhere, all at once happened.

2qbn

I hope they don’t make the play in. Play the young guys and let the chips fall on regular season record. If in the lotto, great. Get a nice talent. You complain, but if we were to ever hear you stop, then I think I nice lotto pick might help. Add more talent not by overpaying guys like Walker or whoever else you’re mad about.

SunManFromDogBone

Yup. Gap years rule!

Hothothoopsfan4life

I know it does idiot

2qbn

You know, this free agency isn’t for everyone.

Bout30man

It’s a mystery. Something like 40 transactions have gone down and crickets in Miami. It’s the theater of low expectations going on here. Everyone is finding silver linings that utterly don’t exist. The new euphemism for getting nothing done and running it back is now called “gap year.”
I understood two years ago because the franchise has a long legacy of success. But after a couple years of barely being able to use the word mediocrity, it should have raised some hackles around here. But, all you hear are the same hopeful comments, the same forced positivity, and the same disdain for those of us who dare to hit them with reality that this franchise, in comparison with most others, is in a shambles. They actually should be thanking us for keeping it real, for having the courage to demand better, as we sit and watch us fall further behind every day.
Thanks hhf4, you’re the bravest and most honest guy here. Even hfl sometimes tries to pander to this mob even though he knows better. He knows we collected seven one way players with skill redundancy and limitation similarities, expressed mostly in inability to play defense or bring the ball up court. And we need to trade at least three but we can’t get rid of most of them because they are very hard to move. And that has hurt our team for years to come. But, as they said in A Few Good Men, the rest of you “can’t handle the truth.”
As for Riley, more and more pundits are telling him to step down. In the last year I have read at least ten major ESPN analysts say his time has passed. The rest of you should find out what the rest of the league thinks about us. We are kind of a joke, the Miami Throwbacks, or the Miami Mikans. And our immediate future is bleak as hell. Sorry to say, but true.

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2qbn

And same to you. I recall you complaining the entire season we ended up in the Finals against the Nuggets. You wanted Porter. We got him. Now complaining he’s on the team. You have been talking our demise for years and the team has gone to two Finals and an ECF. Yeah, one of the worst franchises for sure.

Courage to demand better after that run? No team is in title contention mode every year. Courage? You both actually sound entitled, if we’re being honest. I could go on, but truly not worth it. Yo se quien eres. I hope we’re really bad so you can finally be happy. Good day, sir.

Hothothoopsfan4life

Lmao I just made this handle this season try again.

2qbn

I’m talking to Bout30 in the 1st paragraph, but admitting you are a serial troller is noted. Prometheus Jr, though he was nicer while still coming around to say we aren’t winning the title every season. lol

Bout30man

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I didn’t ask for Porter. Maybe you mean Rozier, if so, that’s true. I was amazed we got him for Lowry and a pick. Now we probably know why he disappointed.
I was shocked and awed by our playoff run that year before. But, I was totally a fan, cheering them on like crazy. After that I was hoping we could get another player, to get over the top.
And, we already are bad, 37-45 bad. That playoff run was, as they say, it’s been a minute.
And, despite all the wishing and a hoping, the jury is very much still out on Jovic. Even if he is good enough, which isn’t a given, his injury history is concerning too. I’m hopeful for him and all Heat players. But, we are trying to reinvent a wheel that has been used effectively only once in sixty years. It’s a tremendously low percentage move. And if you were being honest, you know it too.
Hey, I like you and everyone else on these threads. But, I do like others who have contrary opinions to be taken seriously. Like I said, two years ago I could see falling back on past laurels. But, those days are gone and our beefs are legit.

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2qbn

Apologies, I meant Rozier. My brain heard Terry and I think of the better Terry and that is Porter.

There is much to discuss in this post, but for brevity, let me drop a stat most may have not heard about Jovic, but before I do, I have posted recently on how this season he needs to show health and consistency. He also needs Spo to find a specific role for him. The only players at 6’10” or taller to hit 37% of their threes with a minimum of 400 attempts over the last four seasons are Niko and Chet Holmgren. Yes, Chet is a better defender, but for a part of the season last year Niko was a 15-4-4 guy. HFL just said Beal would be the best player on this team with almost the same stats. (he had to catch a stray) So again, poo poo platter away.

Hothothoopsfan4life

I also want to thank you for being understanding and also not with the go along get along gang some have here. We all aren’t going to agree with the way things are going around here and feet should be held to the fire around here, if this were any other franchise and Riley didn’t have the name he would’ve been gone for the teams/contracts he’s rolled out for spo and contracts he’s giving out. Especially after that BTA playoffs performance. Iono think they understand that if enough of us announce our displeasure with this team maybe actual change would happen but until then they feed them culture and gap years and they run with it. It’s giving gullible if you ask me

2qbn

Yeah, I’m positive the organization is listening to you two. Their future plans are all pulled from your posts. I guess, thanks?

vagibugi

You are right in certain way. The Heat are in the deep hole, and Spo and Riley, along with Butler are responsible to be there, along with other players.

But how to get out of the hole, is probably a thing of character. You can rage around and try to jump out of it with a good chance to fall back into, or try to climb out slow and methodically.

Most of us here are for second approach, and since some patient comes along with this approach, we are patient. But this doesn’t mean, that we are happy. At least I m not.

So, I thing we have in common we are all unhappy, we differ in the way how to solve things. So its not about “cant handle the truth”, its about how to get out of this hole.

oregoner

Lol. In the past 7 years the Heat have been to the Finals twice. The Indiana Pacers have been to the Finals twice in their entire NBA History. If you consider the last 7 years of Heat sports a “historical underperformance”, then I would say almost every team in the NBA has a historical underperformance every 7 years

2qbn

Some people can’t handle the truth. Where have I heard that?

Hothothoopsfan4life

Yup

Last edited 14 days ago by Hothothoopsfan4life
2qbn

I read the original message 😉

Hothothoopsfan4life

Sure gullible idiot

2qbn

I did. You called Oregoner a dumb a$$. yes or no?

2qbn

Okay you left the one above, so kudos on that one. I can appreciate that.

2qbn

Walker to Atlanta for $60 million. Yeah, we knew he would get more than most.

Bout30man

Atlanta is going to be better. Maybe Orlando too. We need to improve.

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2qbn

Orlando will be good. I’m not caught up in being good this season. Be competitive while the young nucleus gets experience together. See where you stand at trade deadline and sell off any rotation parts that won’t be here for something of value, even for 2nd round picks. If they make a trade for a player on the same timeline, even better. They can all grow together. The 1st round pick could finally bring some luck if in the lotto. The team is due.

If they trade for a DeRozan then they want to try and stay relevant while the young guys get PT, but it would be a progress stopper for somebody. Interested to see what they do.

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2qbn

Capela to Houston. Rumor right now is Warriors think Kuminga resigns with them.

LaVert to Detroit. They still have some space, so this doesn’t mean no room for Duncan.

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2qbn

Kornet to Spurs is a solid signing. Texas is going to have it’s own battles lol

Reality Czech

I am definitely going to try to catch the games of those 3 teams next season. I think they will all be in the top 6, especially if AD can stay healthy for a change.

2qbn

Agree. It’s going to be great TV.

2qbn

Porter and a 1st to Nets for Cam Johnson. The Nuggets knew they needed to make a move in that west. That playoff out there next season is going to be insane.

Reality Czech

Finney-Smith to Houston

2qbn

Now I’m not sure if they’ll have money for Walker or Kennard. Let’s see. Moves are being made.

2qbn

Nailed that one.

2qbn

An underrated role player that I like that seems like he might not be resigning with the Clippers is Coffey. Not a game changer but solid off the bench and could probably be had for a team friendly deal.

Bout30man

This is a desirable complementary piece, who brings skillsets we are in short supply of. Five teams want him. It would be nice to be the one who ends up with Alexander -Walker. But, over the last few seasons, the more desirable a player, the less likely we seem to be the team to win the bidding on.
There are several reasons for that, all bad, and all related to our GM. One, our assets are not wanted, two, we cannot pay much, and three, we have little draft capital. Most of all, we start having a few losing seasons and become not a desirable destination very quickly. Thanks Pat.
Pat reminds me now of the last years of two much ballyhooed south Florida legends, Dan Marino, who is exalted, but actually stayed too long and many don’t remember how awful he was for at least his last two seasons, and really more like last three.
And, on my hockey blog some would crucify me for this, but we got Jaromir Jagr late in his career. In fact the Panthers had to settle for everyone’s scraps for two decades, and only way we get a Jagr was when he was a shell of himself. Yet, some Cats fans thought he was great. He was more like a pontoon boat skating amongst jet skis. The Panthers didn’t right the ship till they got a new GM, best in the league. Now we are a mini-dynasty.
The Marlins also got only everyone’s scraps from 2004 till now except one year, the year they moved into their new stadium, but the next year they were back to dumpster diving. The Fish got a really sharp new GM this year and they are showing signs of turning things around even with the lowest payroll in the league.
That is where Pat is taking us, where we are thrilled with the Rozier’s and Burks of the world. Yes, these failing GM’s do occasionally get someone ok like a Mitchell, but their percentages get worse and worse. I have seen this picture before where you stay too long and it gets ugly. The GM is your most valuable player and we need a new one. Stat.

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SunManFromDogBone

BREAKING NEWS! TERRY ROZIER CLEARED IN FEDERAL PROBE!

As I have mentioned more than once, I believe the sharp drop-off in Rozier’s production this past year and a half had directly to do with the stress he has been feeling as the result of the federal investigation of game fixing hanging over his head.

ESPN’s Shams Charania reported today that Rozier has now been cleared of any wrongdoing regarding the federal probe. “Terry Rozier as of now has been cleared. He finished the season with Miami, there’s nothing really active as of right now with him…It appears Rozier will be ready to go for the 2026 season. He’ll be paid $26 million for the final year of a four-year contract.”

Now that the investigation has been concluded and he has been cleared, I think it would be a big mistake to trade him…at least until Miami sees if he can get his mojo back. I was supportive of his trade when it happened (a washed up Lowry and a pick for a 20+ ppg player)? I was also supportive of trading him based on his dismal performance last season. With the recent good news, I think the trade for him may have still been a good decision… especially if he can elevate his play and raise his trade value before the trade deadline. If he can, Miami may be able to package him as part of a trade for a better player.

With Robinson now gone (hopefully) and Rozier back to his old self/game (hopefully), the Heat should be able to hold their own in the East until the deadline, giving Riley an opportunity to work on trades to improve the team. There are good trades out there to be had, but only if Miami is viewed around the league to be trading from a position of strength, not weakness.

GO HEAT!!!

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2qbn

I do think that combined with his neck injury caused issues. I don’t think we’re going to be able to unload him unless we do the Kuminga S&T and he’s filler, plus giving up a pick.

I would be totally okay with bringing him back, maybe see how he looks in preseason, then give him a few minutes to allow for trade deadline move with his expiring contract. Now with Robinson off the books that opens up tons of avenues.

SunManFromDogBone

If Riley receives an offer he can’t refuse that involves Rozier, I agree. Otherwise. I would give Rozier the benefit of the doubt and let him demonstrate if he can elevate his game to an acceptable level. If he does, it would be good to have him available off the bench.

2qbn

He’s not a sniper, but at least he can cook if/when he gets hot. This is of course in a scenario where he finds his game again. His career win share is pretty crazy considering some of those crap Hornets teams he played on.

Reality Czech

For anyone who jumped to negative conclusions about Rozier, the concept is innocent until proven guilty. I am glad he’s been vindicated.

SunManFromDogBone

I agree 100%. However, anyone ever wrongly accused of a serious crime knows it is extremely stressful. It will take him a few months to get his head out of the fog and his life back together.

A smart team might make Riley a lowball offer for Rozier that he and the fans would later regret. Can you imagine Rozier elevating his game to his Charlotte level after Miami takes a stiff, a second rounder and a bag of chips in trade? I sure can!

Bout30man

That is good news. In fact, I felt the same as you about him. There’s definitely a chance he bounces back. We should see what we have in him, give him a decent chance. Besides, we would be trading low right now. There are other moves we could make.

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SunManFromDogBone

Absolutely!

2qbn

Reporting still says Bulls & Heat main suitors for Kuminga.

2qbn

With the money other teams have, and their position to be in a better position for the playoffs, I don’t think he’s coming here.

Reality Czech

Unfortunately, I think you’re right about that.

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